Front Wheel Bearings - The quest to find an alternative

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Post by philhoward » Tue May 07, 2019 5:07 pm

I doubt Graham/Nigel would have put several thousand into manufacturing a batch if they existed elsewhere, as they've only reappeared recently, and (as far as I know from Graham) after all the known ex-Reliant stock had been consumed. It's not very often they miss a trick..


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Post by philhoward » Tue May 07, 2019 5:10 pm

Alan SS1 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 4:59 pm
PS it's not often I'd suggest paying more than you need to!!!!
I know - glad I was sitting down! :shock:


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Post by peter freeman » Tue May 07, 2019 5:20 pm

I just want you to continue to see if you end up failing like I did - you can buy three rear wheel bearings for the price of one front wheel bearing - does not sound fair does it.



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Post by Jester007 » Tue May 07, 2019 5:31 pm

peter freeman wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 5:20 pm
I just want you to continue to see if you end up failing like I did - you can buy three rear wheel bearings for the price of one front wheel bearing - does not sound fair does it.
As with many things in life, failure if nothing else teaches you things you didn't know before you started - plus I work in IT so I'm not one for giving up the first time something doesn't work!

I figured it was worth the discussion on here and thought tapping into the knowledge already out there might help.

I don't think the price is unfair at all for small batch runs and to be honest this thread is getting too off track for me now as it wasn't about undercutting anyone. It feels though I'm flogging a horse nobody wants or feels needs flogged so I'll stop.



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Post by scimjim » Tue May 07, 2019 5:49 pm

As with lots of things - worth carrying out the exercise every few years, if just to prove that nothing’s changed.

The other option of course is the PH (philhoward) vented brake conversion which we’ve been looking at replacing for a few years now. The original conversion used the chevette uprights (with associated single taper bearings that only cost a few quid) - of course those are now getting as rare as the valve Caliper and Carlton disc the setup uses.

There are several avenues we haven’t fully explored in terms of upright, such as the Isuzu Piazza Turbo/Holden Gemini/Pontiac Fiero and the aftermarket replacements available for those cars overseas (all believed to be based around the chevette) - which might use a different bearing etc again?


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Post by reliant-reviver » Tue May 07, 2019 6:49 pm

The avenue I have wondered about was new billet aluminium hubs that take a common bearing and an off the shelf or minimally modified vented disc.


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Post by gtcse8 » Tue May 07, 2019 7:53 pm

GW had a few hundred remade a few years ago and they have the Reliant part number etched upon them, with GW at the end to donate that`s who had them re made.
This type of "Cartridge" bearing was actually used on agricultural grass cutters.
But they are even rarer than SS1/SSt/Sabre`s.


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Post by Alan SS1 » Wed May 08, 2019 12:49 pm

for what it's worth I've bought THREE front wheel bearings for the C30, ranging in price from £110 to £85, all SKF / FAG (all for one car that's ONLY done 60000 miles)
this is for a unit that's used on Ford Focus, and I bet they've built more than 1500 of them :shock:


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Post by peter freeman » Thu May 09, 2019 11:45 am

I now have a digital vernier to check the bearing dims - against those listed by Jetser's catalogue.
B- 35mm, D - 58mm, d - 29.3mm d1 - 42 mm. Not sure what the allowable differences would be but as I thought the biggest difference is D which on our bearings comes out as 58 an in the catalogue is 56



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Post by CNHSS1 » Thu May 09, 2019 12:27 pm

reliant-reviver wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 6:49 pm
The avenue I have wondered about was new billet aluminium hubs that take a common bearing and an off the shelf or minimally modified vented disc.
Walkers Sabre had alloy front hubs, replicas of original reliant design. When Paul M bought the car, only one was present so one must have failed, nearside was std

I dont see the problem with these bearings, they last 100,000 miles plus which by most users annual usage will mean their great grandchildren will need to change them! Also 80 odd quid for a bearing is only 40 quid each for a normal 2 bearing hub.

Even when removed and the come apart, they go back together and function normally, they really are great quality.

My racers put much greater loads at much greater speeds than reliant intended-- no issues. My old roadie Ti had done nearly 200,000 miles, bearings changed at 120k for no reason other than I thought I should, no difference and used bearings were used again elsewhere 8)


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