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Post by pauluspaolo » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:42 pm

And has anyone got one?

Just looking in my friend's Observer's Book of Cars from 1989/90 and found it contains a Scimitar SS2.
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Post by David Tew » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:45 pm

It was William Town's update of the SS1 and I'm not sure they made more than one. It's similar to the SST launched in 1990 and I seem to recall that the T in SST stands for Towns, although I could be wrong! :wink:


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Post by scimjim » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:03 pm

also look up the "Target" which was a set of panels Towns proposed to make an SS1 look like that.

IIRC, in the small sports anorak discussion, it was mooted that the SS2 and Target were in fact the same "car" underneath (just a few tweaks and paint)


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Post by Roger Pennington » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:12 pm

David Tew wrote:
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I seem to recall that the T in SST stands for Towns,
Yes, I believe that's correct.

As for the SS2, I suspect there was only the one, and I don't recall what happened to it. As it was intended for the USA market, it would presumably have gone there for evaluation - did it ever come back? William Towns did market a lit of panels to convert the SS1 into an SS2-lookalike, called the "Towns Target", but again it's not known if any were sold. (presumably, if they were, they would have kept their original SS1 identity). It's a shame, as it looks quite good, I think. William Towns then got involved again with the SST restyle.

According to Elvis Payne's book they did look at a 3.1 V6 engine for the SS2, to make it more appealing

[edit - beaten to it by Jim - must type faster! ]


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Post by guybetts » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:28 pm

I gave the 'Target' some thought back in the early 90's, when it was marketed. I wrote to Town's for details and got a letter, some photos and price details from him. About £5k iirc. I gave all the pics to Dave Poole, our archivist :D
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Post by Roger Pennington » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:47 pm

It sounds a good idea on paper, as it tackles the main shortcoming of the SS1 - it's "quirky" styling. Sadly though, the fly in the ointment is that it's difficult to make the numbers add up, and justify the cost.


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Post by Roger Pennington » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:50 pm

guybetts wrote:
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I gave all the pics to Dave Poole, our archivist
And as a matter of interest, you get a photo-credit for the two Target images in Elvis' book :D


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Post by Rattling » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:18 pm

Roger Pennington wrote:
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It sounds a good idea on paper, as it tackles the main shortcoming of the SS1 - it's "quirky" styling. Sadly though, the fly in the ointment is that it's difficult to make the numbers add up, and justify the cost.
Quirky but distinctive styling along with precision panel gaps is what endears us owners to the ss1 and anyway no one sees the detail that much as you overtake them :D :D


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Post by Roger Pennington » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:31 pm

Yes, I always say you can't see the styling from the driving seat anyway :)


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Post by guybetts » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:42 pm

Roger Pennington wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:50 pm
guybetts wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:28 pm
I gave all the pics to Dave Poole, our archivist
And as a matter of interest, you get a photo-credit for the two Target images in Elvis' book :D
I really should get a copy of his book :oops:


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Post by DavePoole » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:01 am

Here's the SS2 concept car at the motorshow in 1988

Underneath it was an 1800Ti SS1 chassis

I was told it ended up going to the USA for evaluation.
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Post by DavePoole » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:02 am

Here's the Towns Target

I'm still trying to find out if it exists
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Post by David Tew » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:20 am

DavePoole wrote:
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Here's the Towns Target
I quite like that. It certainly reflects William Towns' origami design ethic. :)

Not sure the headlight height would meet legal requirements though and that price! "Only" £6,462 (the equivalent of over £15,000 today) for a set of GRP panels and four wheels when a new SST 1400 was listed at £10,950. :shock:


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Post by erikscimitardemon » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:56 pm

Where in the USA did the SS2 end up? Presumably not at the same address as a LHD 1800ti ended up. (Now Darrens car in Canada). That company evaluated to import the SS1 1800ti.


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Post by Coupe Racing » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:03 pm

Didn't think they could make an SS1 look any worse ..... but they did ! :shock:


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