SE6b Power steering hp Pipe removal ???

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SE6b Power steering hp Pipe removal ???

Post by gtcse8 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:49 pm

ard126k wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:45 pm
When I was trying to get mine off I finally resorted to cable-tying the pipes to the rack body and removing the whole unit
I do remember those Alex :roll:


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SE6b Power steering hp Pipe removal ???

Post by scimrick » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:12 pm

Just changed all PAS pipes on GTC this last week so SE6B should be the same.
Firstly I had to undo topmost pinchbolt splined joint of the lower steering column next to bulkhead, then removed 4 bolts holding rack to it's brackets. This left enough room to sllde pinion end of rack forwards enough to access the 4 unions. However due to the very limited access to wield any spanner, I then undid the lowest splined joint where the lower column meets the pinion. This joint is hidden inside the chassis upright in it's normal operating position, but exposed when rack slid forwards.
I was then able, after disconnecting the 2 pipes at PAS pump, to slide the rack through the N/S wheel arch before lifting out through engine bay. Sounds easy but also the radiator had to be removed and Track Rod Ends splitting to give enough wriggle room.
Both pinch bolts were so seized they had to be carefully cut with a Dremel disc cutter - very tight access but just manageble. Yes, all had been soaked with penetrating fluids daily for nearly a whole week before commencing any work; and battery removed.
To me it made sense to remove and work on all the unions exposed on the bench. Most were so corroded it would have been impossible to crack the joints if rack had not been removed. There is no way I could have got enough leverage with rack still on the car.
The other problem doing it in situ is trying to get the new super rigid pipes to the correct orientation to avoid cross threading. Definitley easier to put new pipes on when working on a bench.
Renewing track rod ends, renewing the HT pinchbolts, centering of the rack, resetting tracking, renewing the gaiters/oil refill with EP oil, etc etc is up to the individual owner's discretion / timescale / budget.
Any way, that's my experience and took me 20 hours, how any one else does it is their own choice.
Richard



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SE6b Power steering hp Pipe removal ???

Post by gtcse8 » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:10 am

There is a DisConnection Disc half way down the column.
It has Four bolts holding it in place, remove Two bolts diagonally and the rack can be slid ALL the way forward to FULLY expose the lower UJ and pinch bolts. :lol: That`s what it`s there for. :wink:

After replacing the pipes and lubricating the unions with either Grease or Copperease, or something that is not going the wash off, and AFTER checking for leaks, I have sprayed over the pipes and unions with Under body Shuzt, stops the pipes from corroding, IF they have to come off again it may be messy, but makes life a whole lot easier.
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Post by TrevorG » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:19 am

I'll give a thumbs up to Mark here.....the pipes that fitted perfectly without recourse to slight easement were the ones he had manufactured! Thanks mate :D :D :D



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Post by gtcse8 » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:43 am

Just out of interest, how many Richards own GTC`s ??.
I know of more than any other name. :!:

Guy where are you ?


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Post by guybetts » Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:52 pm

gtcse8 wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:43 am
Just out of interest, how many Richards own GTC`s ??.
I know of more than any other name. :!:

Guy where are you ?
2 :shock:
17 just "R"
12 Mr (but no initial)
0 Dick's 8)

Unfortunately, as you probably gather its only as good as the info we registrars are given :lol: :lol: :lol:


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SE6b Power steering hp Pipe removal ???

Post by trevlac » Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:22 pm

The Story, so far...
With the 16mm crow's foot spanner, I was able to get the Return pipe union off (It took a lot of effort and I had to use a ring spanner on the ratchet for extra leverage, to crack it and then could only move one flat at a time. You'll also notice that I forgot to buy a longer socket extension, so had to cobble two smaller ones together, a longer one would definitely make it easier.) Jubilee clip on the pump side.
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The HP union was more difficult. I could get the 14mm crow's foot socket on, but there was nowhere to turn it as the crow's foot was too big and turned against the other two unions. I eventually got it to move, one flat at a time, using a conventional spanner, with the help of a 2lb hammer to get the initial crack! The 16mm union, at the pump end, came off easily.
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I had literally, just got the pipe out of the car, when the Heavens opened up again, so everything got thrown into the shed for cover.
These are the two pipes off, sheltering in the shed.
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And this is the offending leaky bit… Worn away by the small round spacer between the two pipes in the bracket…
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Now just waiting for the repair. But I think it will be even more difficult to get them refitted…
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Post by gtcse8 » Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:11 pm

guybetts wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:52 pm
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17 just "R"
12 Mr (but no initial)
0 Dick's
Cheers Guy.
And Congratulations Richard on getting the pipes off without them snapping or the unions rounding off :clap:


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SE6b Power steering hp Pipe removal ???

Post by DARK STAR » Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:22 pm

In France GTC owners are mostly Philip(pe) s 8)


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