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Post by philipmasonfrance » Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:42 am

Were there only 437 SE6b built??? That would make it rarer than the GTC, n'est-ce pas?

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Post by erikscimitardemon » Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:43 am

philipmasonfrance wrote:
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Were there only 437 SE6b built??? That would make it rarer than the GTC, n'est-ce pas?
Even less. about 437 VINs issued form the start of the se6b, but 30-ish cars were built as an se6a, with an Essex.


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Post by TrevorG » Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:25 am

Yeah Erik, and what a pain they are if there's an electrical fault.....looms etc. are a mix of whatever the factory could lay their hands on, so I need both 6a and 6b wiring diagrams (especially where cables are different colours) and a lot of luck!



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Post by gtcse8 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:08 am

I have Two 6b s and One and a Half GTC`s. :lol:
There should not be too much difference in wiring between them and 6a. :?:
The Ignition system is different but it`s a separate loom that plugs into the main harness, and the front headlights have separate fuses, but the box is fastened to the inner engine bay so the wires are not visible, but they should just be an extension of the main harness so colours should be the same as 6a :w
One of the 6b`s has a factory electric tilt and slide sunroof, so that will have additional wires, but they should just be 12v + earth from a power source.
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Post by scimjim » Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:02 am

407 SE6b, so yes - rarer than the C.

Wiring as Mark says is just the changes in the engine bay for the Cologne and it’s ignition module, relocated battery and the extra little fuse box.


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Post by gtcse8 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:22 am

Chassis numbers from 5429 to 5865, minus #5836, last car made in 1984 was converted to Middlebridge prototype.
So a total of 436 on record. :idea:
But where did the "Alleged" 30ish cars built as 6a go?.
Where they the first batch and used up factory stock of Essex engines?.
I would have thought Reliant would have kept back a few Essex engines for Spares/Warranty on the previous years se6a builds. :?:
I own # 5493 which would be #64 made, unless the first 30ish were to 6a spec?, this car is in TSAIF chassis records and is the last car made in Dec 79.
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Post by Oldconn » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:38 am

I have 5477 which is a 6A with an Essex. It was first registered April 1980, but I don't know when it was made.


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Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:20 pm

Oldconn wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:38 am
I have 5477 which is a 6A with an Essex. It was first registered April 1980, but I don't know when it was made.
The VIN will tell you that. eg SCD190155AB - in this case the "A" = 1980 and the "B" = February, so whatever those two letters are is the answer :)

(I'm assuming that chassis 5477 will be on the "new" VIN system)


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Post by scimjim » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:47 pm

gtcse8 wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:22 am
Chassis numbers from 5429 to 5865, minus #5836, last car made in 1984 was converted to Middlebridge prototype.
So a total of 436 on record. :idea:
5836 was built as a 6b, so 437 cars between 5429 and 5865. The prototype GTC (DPX 106) and 3 x 2.8 prototypes (DPX 103/104/105) excluded.
gtcse8 wrote:
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But where did the "Alleged" 30ish cars built as 6a go?
I can tell you exactly which cars between 5429 and 5865 had an Essex if that’s what you’re after?


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Post by scimjim » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:00 pm

here you go - the 30 SE6a built after 6b production had started. Mark's car #5493 was the 35th 6b

5356 - 5428 6a Nov 79

5429 -5435 6b Nov 79

5436 6b Nov or Dec 79

5437 - 5444 6b Dec 79

5445 - 5464 6a Dec 79

5465 - 5473 6b Dec 79

5474 - 5479 6a Dec 79

5480 - 5482 6b Dec 79

5483 - 5486 6a Dec 79

5487 - 5493 6b Dec 79

Graeme Conway NYorkshireman may have some more info about the N/K cars as I’m going off very old data?


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Post by gtcse8 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:32 pm

So I must assume the 6a were built with Essex to fulfil "old" orders taken before the change of engine bay to accept the 2.8 that Ford forced upon Reliant?.
OR did the 6a`s use up Reliant 6a bodyshells AND engines?.
Oldconn wrote:
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I have 5477 which is a 6A with an Essex
Does yours have the 6a engine bay?.


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Post by DARK STAR » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:04 pm

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Post by scimjim » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:23 pm

Yes, they were real 6a - battery at the front.

It was over 10 years ago that I first published the change to the number of 6b - when I merged the GTC and 6 registers it was immediately apparent that Reliant restarted the engine numbers for the Cologne at 16000 - and there was a big batch of 15000 engine numbers at the end of 1979.


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Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:50 pm

gtcse8 wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:32 pm
So I must assume the 6a were built with Essex to fulfil "old" orders taken before the change of engine bay to accept the 2.8
Or perhaps, for a short time (because they could?), Reliant offered both, for the sake of any potential *new* customers, who preferred to specify the Essex?
I don't know, but it seems an alternative perspective on it? Maybe Dave Peek ( malthouse ) might be able to add some info?


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Post by malthouse » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:48 am

Sorry cant help with that one Roger.
I think from history we all know the factory by this time was running short of funds and i think it goes back to the introduction of SE6 to SE6a they used in the bin before what was there as opposed to stick into stock.
Not the best of ways but thats how it was sadly.



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