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Post by philhoward » Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:39 am

4 corners, 6 guys?

Lift at the front, unhook the rear I think is the way for a 5.


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Post by GeoffTE » Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:35 am

It might be useful for you to look up the project restoration of my 5. "SAR restoration- my old girl" that I went into in great detail about 7/8 years ago. You'll see all the problems I had to deal with, all the helpful advice I had from this forum (great people) and all the daft questions (no daft questions really), I asked which were answered with great tolerance and patience. I faced all the same problems you are, and will, face and overcame the seemingly insurmountable issues with the help of this forum. e.g. I took the body off SAR on my own with the help of a block and tackle and a strong roof beam.
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Post by AJL Electronics » Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:42 am

"Post by veganight » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:49 pm
Almost at the ‘Body off’ stage, Any advice folks other than 4 corners four guys?"




Yes, 6 guys!

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Post by philhoward » Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:47 am

Ah - forgot the 7th person who can be dispatched to get underneath in a hurry and disconnect the wire/cable/hose you forgot about/got hooked on something until trying to test its tensile strength whilst lifting it.


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Post by AJL Electronics » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:00 am

philhoward wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:47 am
Ah - forgot the 7th person who can be dispatched to get underneath in a hurry and disconnect the wire/cable/hose you forgot about/got hooked on something until trying to test its tensile strength whilst lifting it.
And the ladies to look on and shout words of encouragement!


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Post by philhoward » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:02 am

AJL Electronics wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:00 am
And the ladies to look on and shout words of encouragement abuse!
Fixed that for you :mrgreen:


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Post by veganight » Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:41 pm

Fantastic, Thanks all

I am also looking at using a 2 tonne engine crane with max lift of approx 2.5 metres to assist lifting the front end (Scaffold pole through Wheel Arches) for support, Allowing the movement of personnel around the vehicle, Will I still need 6 people?

I will be removing the doors and any other unnecessary weight apart from glazing.

Is there a figure for the weight of the body in Kgs for guidance?

Thanks all again for your help with this.

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Post by limegreen5A » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:06 pm

veganight wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:41 pm
Fantastic, Thanks all

I am also looking at using a 2 tonne engine crane with max lift of approx 2.5 metres to assist lifting the front end (Scaffold pole through Wheel Arches) for support, Allowing the movement of personnel around the vehicle, Will I still need 6 people?
I managed with an engine crane at the front and just 2 people (3 would have been better) - depends where you want to put the body afterwards - mine sits above the chassis on tressles and fence posts (has been there 2 years now!) so it was a case of using crane at the front with a scaffold pole between the arches, juggling the body back a little and chassis forward while supporting the back and sliding fence posts onto tressles between rear arches and then same at front - slowly raising tressles up to get the body to height we needed (car was empty of all glass, chrome and interior, but still had basic doors shells.

quick photo as below (hopefully)

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Post by veganight » Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:01 am

Thanks for the photo Pete.

Your space set up looks similar to mine and good reference point for me to start, A picture paints a thousand words and all that and if you have any more photos that would be great.

Also is there a preferred method of engine out first or can it also be done leaving the engine in?

Thanks

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Post by GavinR » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:48 pm

Leave the engine in - it's a lot easier to remove with the body off!


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Post by limegreen5A » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:44 pm

veganight wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:01 am
Thanks for the photo Pete.

Your space set up looks similar to mine and good reference point for me to start, A picture paints a thousand words and all that and if you have any more photos that would be great.
I'll see if I have any other photos - my son did do a timelapse of the event - I recall it didnt last as long as it took us though! I will see if it could help and if I can host/upload it anywhere to view

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Post by limegreen5A » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:37 am

James,

Finally found the timelapse we did - sadly it doesnt show much other than raising the front and juggling fence posts onto tressles (PM me if useful and I can send directly) but attached are a few other photos of the set up. Since these photos I've attached some straps on the fence posts to the rafters of the garage as a safety precaution but all seems sound so far. The challenge for me will shortly be putting the body back on to the rebuilt chassis - must do a project progress thread!

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Post by veganight » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:01 pm

Amazing, Thanks Pete, this is just what I was looking for.

This is my first restoration and I keep getting swallowed up by the unknown and the 'Oh Sh*!' What am I doing feeling!

Then I come across the help of the fine people on this forum, Giving me the reassurance to take the next step.

I read a lot of posts and I am not ashamed to say, As a novice, I don't understand a lot of the vocabulary used, So to see the images you have shared gives me a boost to say the least.

Please do a progress thread as I'm sure this will help folk in the same situation as I know it has helped me. Especially in terms of the rebuilt Chassis, Shot blast, paint and piecing it all back together :shock:

I will DM you about the timelapse.

Thank you all again.



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Post by veganight » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:03 pm

Another £100 on Trestles I hadn't budgeted for :lol: :lol: :lol:



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Post by GavinR » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:39 pm

Or use whatever you might have lying around, scrap wood, pallets, etc...


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