Andy's SE6a

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Post by PilotLight » Thu May 21, 2020 12:06 pm

Morning all.

So I'm excited to get stuck into my new project and thanks to some sound advice from Philip in my intro thread I've opened this project thread to keep track of how things are going and maybe get some advice along the way.

My car is an early 1979 SE6a and according to the chassis number was built in October 1978 which is the same month I was built! We are both starting to show our age!

It's all more or less there, it runs and drives to a fashion, but it's safe to say everything will need fixing to some degree!

At this stage, I'm going through everything to figure out the priorities and the major issues to be addressed first.

There is an exhaust leak at the front pipe that was slowly gassing me on the way home so that's the first priority, on closer inspection one of the lugs that the header bolts into the block have snapped off so that will be fun to sort out! It also stinks and runs quite lumpy so I think it's possibly running rich but certainly needs the carb looking at, it hesitates and surges under acceleration.

So to make sure the big issues are identified and sorted so I can keep driving it I'm sending it to my mechanic at the end of the week who is a VW specialist so you can imagine he is used to rust and old carb engines!

Looking at the wiring there are many wires without things plugged in so I will have fun going through everything to figure out where they go and to whom they belong, all the earthing straps I have found look brittle and dirty so I think I will replace all of them to start with. (Any suggestions for sourcing these?)

I love the fact that I've managed to insure it for £88.00 inc full breakdown cover and with the lack of tax and MOT costs it's amazing how affordable these cars are.

I'm a keen YouTube creator for over 10 years so I thought it might be fun to make some videos to document my progress, not sure if anyone would find them interesting but I'll see how that goes.

That's all for now, over and out.




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Post by Smithy Se6 » Fri May 22, 2020 10:11 pm

I am a big fan of the two tone paint. Good luck with the project, looking forward to the youtube videos.



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Post by PilotLight » Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:36 am

So after a few weeks of work I have an update on progress with my Se6a.

As this is a new car to me and the last owner was quite selective with disclosing all the bad bits I wanted to give it to my mechanic/friend to go through everything and make sure it's not too much of a basket case as I don't mind a driving project but didn't want a nut and bolt resto.

Luckily all reports seem reasonably positive.

Underneath the chassis looks solid thanks to the usual constant oil leak that seems to have coated the whole underside in a nice thick layer of oil!

One outrigger has been welded so just a small hole to sort on the driver's side.

The exhaust manifold had snapped on one of the bolt points which seems like a common issue, that's now been fixed for now until I can stump up for a new pair of manifolds, are the stainless tubular ones worth the expense?

The electrics seem shocking as per, we have run some fresh wires to make sure the indicators and lights work but might have to spend some money there at some point.

My main concern was the general health of the engine, if it was in need of a rebuild then it would be more than I wanted to spend right now but I have done a compression test and all are holding 150 - 155 psi which seems reasonable for a 130,000 mile lump. I was slightly concerned over what I thought was a low oil pressure reading after a fast run on a hot day as mentioned in a separate post but my mind has been put to rest somewhat after finding out that they do go down that much when hot and may also improve with a new oil filter so that's encouraging, no knocks or taps from the engine so, for now, that's a tick in the box for me.

I get the feeling that this one has been sat up for quite a few years and then re-commissioned by the previous owner who spent quite a lot and then lost interest, still more to do but a lot of the expensive stuff has already been done. The cooling system is working well, the radiator has been re-cored and the fan kicks in and out fine so one less thing for me to look at.

The brake servo was not working and leaking air so a used one was put on and at least solved the air leak, so the carb can be set up.

The carb was apparently put together by the previous owner from three not so good ones and to be honest it's still not great, we've got it to idle properly now that the air leak is fixed but I think it's still running rich and the throttle butterfly feels quite crusty and the idle changes every time you blip the throttle. I think the only way to be sure is to buy a new DGAS carb, I have heard there are some dodgy Chinese copies so I'm guessing that paying the £300 ish is the only way to be sure of a decent carb?

I will go through and replace all the earth straps and they look suitably crusty as most things do!

After a few weeks with it now I feel like I have a better idea of the car and I'm happy that it's not a complete wreck and that I can drive it and enjoy it while making it better which is exactly what I wanted.

Onwards and upwards!



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Post by rebel alliance » Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:08 am

No chinese "copys"just a carb made in china that is the correct spec for the essex it looks well made to me and if i needed a new carb i would buy one 😊



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Post by AJL Electronics » Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:40 am

rebel alliance wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:08 am
No chinese "copys"just a carb made in china that is the correct spec for the essex it looks well made to me and if i needed a new carb i would buy one 😊
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Post by rebel alliance » Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:55 am

Well Jim seemed to like the look of them a while back



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Post by AJL Electronics » Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:59 am

rebel alliance wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:55 am
Well Jim seemed to like the look of them a while back
That would suprise me.


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Post by manny » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:13 pm

Good day

nice intro 8) and... please You..Tube away :D

good luck

Manny



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Post by Brucky » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:24 pm

Look forward to the YouTube updates👍



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Post by TrevorG » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:15 pm

I'll try and answer the Chinese replica quality succinctly.
The Chinese are experts at using other folks ideas and making a brilliant extension on the original......they are let down by one thing really.
Now, when goods get shipped over to us from the orient, the ships go back laden with two things! Firstly, all our c-rap that they have room to bury and we don't with the premise that they are recycling it.... :roll: Secondly, loads of scrap metals that they smelt down and make into all their ingenious products.
Trouble is, if that metal is smelted with no regard to quality, what you get is...... :roll: :roll:
The guy I was doing the machining for (until I was sacked for self isolating) used to sell Chinese tractors......they failed regularly due to metal fatigue. I have also had experience of Chinese carburettors being porous!
Yup.....you pays for what you get!



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Post by philhoward » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:29 pm

TrevorG wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:15 pm
I'll try and answer the Chinese replica quality succinctly.
The Chinese are experts at using other folks ideas and making a brilliant extension on the original......they are let down by one thing really.
Now, when goods get shipped over to us from the orient, the ships go back laden with two things! Firstly, all our c-rap that they have room to bury and we don't with the premise that they are recycling it.... :roll: Secondly, loads of scrap metals that they smelt down and make into all their ingenious products.
Trouble is, if that metal is smelted with no regard to quality, what you get is...... :roll: :roll:
The guy I was doing the machining for (until I was sacked for self isolating) used to sell Chinese tractors......they failed regularly due to metal fatigue. I have also had experience of Chinese carburettors being porous!
Yup.....you pays for what you get!
Just about confirms my suspicions over the years. You can't make a good item from bad materials - especially when it's been designed around using good materials. Bad materials are cheaper.

That's probably why quality of some Asian (doesn't only apply to China - I've seen a similar situation in India first hand in plastic injection moulding of precision parts where they wanted to recycle the scrap material more times than the manufacturer would allow) manufactured items is "variable" - depends what batch of material they were using.

In other words, it's a gamble. Either you get lucky and saved 50% or you just wasted 50% the cost of a genuine one. Your call.


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Post by PilotLight » Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:26 pm

Just thought I would add an update on my 6a.

I've managed to get hold of some front fog lights, I wasn't sure if I would like them or not but after living with them for a while now I think they look great.

The engine has still been running rough and rich, the carb was pretty crusty so I finally decided to bite the bullet and buy a new Weber carb to at least start with a clean slate from that side of things. I fitted it on Friday and I'm really pleased, without needing to adjust anything but a small tweak to the tickover it's purring like a kitten! Starts on the button every time, tickover smooth and easy either cold or hot it's like a different car! If anyone has been considering a new carb I would say go for it, it's transformed the car so money well spent.

I've done an oil change with the recommended Ford oil filter, I still need to replace the plugs, HT leads and dizzy cap just to make sure as they don't look like they've been done in quite a while. If anyone has any suggestions where i can find reasonably priced HT leads I would appreciate it, I don't need Magnecor I'm not going racing.

While I was draining the radiator water I also noticed that someone has removed the thermostat at some stage so that's another simple job to go on the list, I imagine that was taken out due to some overheating issues.

Took her out for a run this evening as the sun was setting and it was magical, I wasn't in the best mood today but once I went for a drive I couldn't stop the smile! It's paid for itself already as far as I'm concerned!

I still have a job list that seems to be growing more than decreasing but I think I've got it to a stage now where I'm really enjoying driving the car and making it better bit by bit.



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Post by Captain Beke » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:53 am

Good news Andy with the carb, I was also in your position with my SE6a and the carb, got mine from AJL on here last year and haven't looked back starts hot or cold and runs well even converted back from manual to auto choke


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