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Post by philhoward » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:16 am

That's a blast from the past - one of my previous employers had a couple of these as "pool cars" when we needed to dash to site. The 205 Junior diesel was the second choice (first being the 306 D-turbo..) - a much better car than the other 306's they also had with the same engine; not helped by the 306's not having power steering and the 205 did 8)

That 205 had about 250k on it and still pulled well; maintaining momentum was still paramount round the roundabouts but a 205 does like corners..


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Post by adamwilkes » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:10 am

Like many old cars it seems, this one's performance has increased dramatically since we bought it; we think they didn't 'drive' it much but now it does get proper exercise it's quite a handy car :) It's a magic-carpet ride over speed-bumps too; I have no idea how they do it with such a light car but the ride is surprisingly absorbent!


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Post by adamwilkes » Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:36 pm

Back to the crash pad mould-making: The gelcoat and tissue layer are on the pattern & curing :) Lots of layers to go, then some structural supports. Whether it will come off again is another question :?

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Post by Old and Slow » Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:21 pm

I've fitted a buzzer on both my classic cars so I can hear the indicators operating (over the engine noise).
Re: dash top reflections; I don't know if you will find a colour match but the little tins of Humbrol come in matt finish for painting model buildings etc. You'd need quite a few tins though, I guess.


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Post by adamwilkes » Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:12 pm

As some of you may remember, I have a small leak from the auto 'box speedo drive outlet. See page 6 (leak) and page 9 (absorbent pad to collect the drip) to really get up to speed! The car has been run for a few minutes and sat where it is since refilling the gearbox (end of May); the absorbent pad is already pretty saturated so I am going to fix the leak rather than smother it :? I have an O-ring and a shaft-seal on route from QRG, who are still bitterly complaining about the unreliability of the Post Office First Class mail service :shock: Ah well, I am sure the PO will get on top of the extra load eventually.

The dashboard crash-pad mould is now complete, and complete with reinforcements to hold the shape once the pattern is extracted from it. I'll probably try pulling the pattern out in a couple of days & we'll see how the mould looks :) Bits of foam, wood and a cardboard tube don't look all that pretty but they do make for good reinforcing shapes once wrapped in grp :


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Post by Will Yarrow » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:20 pm

Your mould has inspired me, I'm going to have a go at reshaping the rear lights on the GTC, they may not be pretty but at least i tried...



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Post by adamwilkes » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:25 pm

Will Yarrow wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:20 pm
Your mould has inspired me, I'm going to have a go at reshaping the rear lights on the GTC, they may not be pretty but at least i tried...
Glad to be of inspiration, Will :shock: My advice: step back to have a look 8)


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Post by adamwilkes » Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:46 pm

Today (Bank Holiday) I was going to do a simple small job to keep the project rolling on. . . change the gearbox speedo-drive oil-seals, which seem to be leaking quite a lot. I have the Borg-Warner 35 gearbox seal and O-ring from QRG, but the drive shaft seems to be fixed into the gearbox with a circlip (easily removed) and then friction I guess. I haven't been able to pull out the drive unit with leverage on vice-grips on the shaft, so I am uncertain how to progress. Please offer your suggestions!

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Although the black ring around the output shaft feels hard, it could be rubber :? Maybe I need this kind of seal, and just impale and pull out the old hard one:

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I thunked about it for a minute & then spiked the seal out :D It's like this (16mm (5/8")overall diameter; 7.6mm (5/16") current inside diameter, although maybe it used to be 1/4" inside):


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Currently asking Nigel from QRG whether he has one.



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Post by GavinR » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:35 pm

Are there are numbers on the old seal?


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Post by adamwilkes » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:54 pm

There are some numbers on the speedo shaft seal, but I spiked some when I hooking it out :roll: It's a FoMoCo 69AG 7K203??A. The '?' are where the damage is. Is it funny how there is a genuine Ford seal in a Borg-Warner gearbox?

It looks like it may be FoMoCo 69AG 7K203-AA, as that number shows up in search results as a Ford speedo seal.


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Post by GavinR » Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:28 pm

If Nigel cannot supply one, and looking at your dimensions, I was wondering if it's the same as the speedo oil seal in later Ford boxes?

e.g. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/193072794563


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Post by adamwilkes » Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:53 pm

Thanks for your suggestion, Gavin. Those dimensions sound right (8 thick x 16 dia & 7 dia), but Nigel is on the ball :D Is the Borg-Warner BW35 auto gearbox metric then?


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Post by adamwilkes » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:08 am

Minor updates: QRG is sending a new speedo shaft seal my way, so hopefully that will reduce the gearbox leaks.

The new dashboard warning lights have failed to arrive (3 months from China), so I now have a refund and have ordered some alternative lights from vehiclewiringproducts.co.uk; I don't like them so much as the Chinese (non-existent) ones and they will need some sticky labels sculpting onto the lenses but I reckon they will be just fine :) Again they are round coloured lights to fit where the original rectangular dash warning lights were, but six of them so that I can include a fog-light warning and a 'Park' position warning for the auto 'box. (The SE5a didn't have a fog-light from new as fog didn't exist back in 1973 :roll:) I am combining brake fluid and handbrake warnings into one light; I don't have brake-pad warning wires on the pads, so that won't be needed either.

I'll be back on the car in a week or so - hoping for some autumnal nice weather :D


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Post by philhoward » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:17 am

Warning lights - some like these? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8-10-14-16mm ... 3470949774

I used them on the Scimega - took ages to find sellers that actually had stock too and ended up getting them from multiple sellers. I wanted all black but the two indicator ones ended up being silver (no-one had black ones) as I replaced the speedo and tacho for VDO ones without warning lights in the end so had to add another 4. With some careful drilling I made up a blank cover and all 8 fitted in the 4 slots too 8) Had to fit an additional resistor in parallel for the alternator warning light - 68 Ohms from memory? I also didn't use the pad warning but added an ECU lamp 8)


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Post by adamwilkes » Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:16 pm

Yes, those were the ones :(

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So now I shall try these lights , which have a flat lens-front - good for sticking symbols on, but are a bit larger than the Chinese ones. They are very cheap, but don't have replaceable bulbs (LED or filament - don't know):

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They also supply (and I have ordered) some quite nattty clear/see-though self-adhesive sheets with lots of black or white text or symbols which should cover all my warning needs, though I don't know how big they are :shock:

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