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Post by philhoward » Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:42 pm

K seal should be seen as “get you home” solution IMHO.

I think you can get the water pump off with just removing the tensioner - but don’t think you’ll get it off with the lower cover in place.. dont know if you’ll get enough space just by loosening the screws that hold it in place or not.


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Post by Alan SS1 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 4:13 pm

sealant are for 'hoses/pin-holes'

you 'might' be lucky and the seal will 'bed-in' but not 100% certain.
mine was a 'rattling' fit when I eventually replaced it, it only leaked when stopped :shock:
think cover off is order of day


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Post by Peter S » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:43 pm

Well much to my surprise I managed to undo the crank pulley bolt and take the pulley off. On taking off the water pump there was a surprise in the impeller
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It looks like peas or berries :!: No idea how they got there.
Water was pouring out but the only thing obvious is the everything was covered in red hermatite ( like the carb) including the bolt threads. I think this stopped it being tightened up correctly. I'm minded to just clean it up and put it back as the gasket looks unused. But for future reference can anybody tell me whether it's for a 1600 or 1800 engine or are the water pumps the same :?: The Ford part number is SM 8507 AA
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Post by philhoward » Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:13 pm

1600 (early), 1600 (late) and 1800 ones are all very different.

That looks like an early (pre-86) one?


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Post by philhoward » Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:16 pm

I had an aftermarket pump I fitted a long time ago - the last bolt needed another half a turn to tighten and cracked the casting in two for no apparent reason but it can’t have been sitting quite right somewhere. Might be the same issue?


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Post by Peter S » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:48 pm

While waiting for a new fuel filler hose as discovered leaking while trying to put some fuel in the tank, I thought I would "just" put on the steering column shroud.
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What's wrong with that? Well the column was about 25mm too short :!: So the key barrel would not fit in the holes, so tried to pull column to extend the the correct length. That worked I thought until I tried the steering and thought that not right
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I thought that's not supposed to happen but I'm glad it did :!:
I've now got the shaft back in with the pinch bolt in the notch :!: But the shaft is now 35-40 mm too short.
Is there a way of pulling the inner shaft out :?: It seems solid to me or do you have to get a replacement if it has been pushed in ( in an accident)
There is a new joint on the end of the inner shaft are there different lengths :?:

Minor supplementary There is a split metal sleeve on the shaft to go into the stalk unit. Is there a locating notch sometimes as I can only get it 3/4 of the way into the unit?


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Post by reliant-reviver » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:47 pm

Sounds like you have a Chevette rack fitted with the shorter pinion. How many turns is it lock to lock?
Chevette rack does fit, but really it needs the Chevette flexible coupling as well as it's a longer unit.


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Post by Peter S » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:26 pm

Thanks Phil I got all excited for a minute but it's about 2.9 turns lock to lock (I measured and then looked it up -standard)
The rack has a Warranty void if removed sticker from R.G.L with serial no.
Below is photo of shaft from rack.
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Post by reliant-reviver » Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:26 am

Correct rack then.

Wrong ignition barrel though looking at pics again, metro by the looks of it.
So if you were trying to align it with the shroud then that might be the issue.

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Post by Peter S » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:48 pm

Not a lot RR
Can anyone confirm the lengths of the steering column sections my lower one is 600mm to u/s UJ the upper is 500 mm overall ( with a damaged thread - not me job for another day!) The inner section of the lower one is 130 mm and seems to be fixed by two shear pins. Is this correct :?:
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The plastic ball is free to slide up and down is this correct
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My column would seem to need to be approx 25 mm longer but looks like fixed by the two pins shown.
If all correct I'll try again but no where near before :!:


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Post by Peter S » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:30 pm

Well I've no idea what the column is off but it's definitely 38mm too short (1.5") It looks standard though and fits together OK. The stalks just miss the dash so I guess I'll be cutting the shrouds or I'll have to move the light switch.
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Post by gtcse8 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:50 pm

Just get the correct parts Peter :roll:


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Post by scimjim » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:08 pm

I have several spares, can measure at the weekend?


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Post by Peter S » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:22 pm

Yes please Jim thanks


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Post by Ford » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:20 pm

Also looks like the wiper/indicator stalks are too far forward?


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