71 GTE SE5A my rolling restoration and now Tdi conversion

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Post by CarlosVanDango » Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:30 pm

I got the timing gear fitted this morning and nothing visual looked wrong apart from a slightly larger rocker gap on cyl 2
done a compression test and all good 120+ (not sure on the calibration of my gauge i just use if for balance i think it reads a bit low) apart from cyl 2 zero compression on that :( so i'm going to take the head off and see what i find



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Post by Roger Pennington » Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:36 pm

Just a thought, but I don't think you've mentioned dropping the sump to clean out the bits of old tooth?


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Post by CarlosVanDango » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:54 pm

no Roger i haven't yet but i will about 90% of the gear has ended up in the sump- i just didn't want to spend time on the engine if it wasn't going to be a relatively easy repair, if it had suffered serious damage i would just swap it out for another more modern engine, flog it and let someone else rebuild it.
But......... i have found the reason for the low compression no. 2 cyl a bent exhaust valve can't see it with the human eye but it's certainly bent - i was surprised that such a little amount would cause no compression whatsoever

I've measured it up and it's a standard valve so i'll get one ordered, and also a gasket set including the sump and while i'm at it new oil and a filter
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roll on next weekend :D



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Post by willholderogri » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:52 pm

When mine went at 67000 miles It took out two valves one on each Bank of cylinders so I replaced Them and steel gear which solved the problem for a very small outlet of cash


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Post by CarlosVanDango » Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:25 am

ordered all the bits i need - just need to either find my valve spring compressor or borrow one must be 20yrs since ive last used mine, i got the valves out with a g clamp and a piece of metal but i don't think fitting them back will be so easy

looking up head bolt tightening sequence and come across this so i've copied it here so i dont loose it, not sure if it's necessary but seems a good idea
Head bolt tightening

The latest recommended procedure is:

1 Tighten to 20 - 30 lb ft
2 Tighten to 50 - 55 lb ft
3 wait 10 to 20 minutes, tighten to 80 - 90 lb ft
4 Start engine and warm up for 15 minutes, retighten to 80 - 90 lb ft hot
5 Drive the car at least 1000 km and then retigthen to 80 - 90 lb ft hot, (this is really important, usually some of the bolts can be tightened substantially more, last time I was doing this I could tighten some bolts up to one half turn!)

The torque settings has been changed,(it was max 70 lbft earlier)

The above procedure is described in the factory workshop manual for the Essex as used in Granada, but it's doubtful if even the factory workshops really followed this.

I have had problems with water leakage when I didn't used this procedure but never when I done it this way.
There is no need to use new head bolts as they are not of the stretch type, (as used in many newer type of engines).



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Post by b.c.flat hat » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:02 am

Hi Carlos, I think it's 30, 60, 90 then leave alone. That's what I've done on my two.

If your search for the valve spring compressor fails I'm passing by tomorrow. PM me if you need to borrow mine. Regards Crusty.



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Post by Coupe Racing » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:15 am

No harm in checking after a period of time .
Make sure all threads are clean and very lightly oiled.
Make sure there us no water or oil in the threads in the block , otherwise you will likely crack the block


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Post by CarlosVanDango » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:28 pm

b.c.flat hat wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:02 am
If your search for the valve spring compressor fails I'm passing by tomorrow. PM me if you need to borrow mine. Regards Crusty.
thanks for the offer i'm pretty sure manage to borrow one i've got a week to go on the scrounge :D



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Post by CarlosVanDango » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:29 pm

Coupe Racing wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:15 am
No harm in checking after a period of time .
Make sure all threads are clean and very lightly oiled.
Make sure there us no water or oil in the threads in the block , otherwise you will likely crack the block
yes good point anyone know the thread size off hand? i'll see if ive got a tap to clean them out with



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Post by Coupe Racing » Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:32 pm

You can use a head bolt


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Post by CarlosVanDango » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:15 pm

finally got it running 8)

got sump off
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cleaned the broken gear out of it
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while i did the sump my dad lapped the valves in and built the head back up
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all put back started pretty much 1st time took it for a little drive but going back up tomorrow to finish it off and make sure all bolts are tight etc. then be at work in it monday :D

only down side was the clutch is very heavy - are they all like that?



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Post by efi_sprintgte » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:39 pm

Not the lightest clutch in the world but I would reserve judgement until you change the red pipe for a new braided line with fresh fluid.


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Post by willholderogri » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:10 am

Which. Valves went was it one on each bank ?


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Post by CarlosVanDango » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:18 am

Will, it was only the exhaust valve on cylinder 2 - i only had to do one head, the other side had good compression so i left it alone :D



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Post by CarlosVanDango » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:12 pm

drove it on the road for a few miles today 8)

the steering is next on the list as i've already got the MGF column i'll get that fitted quite a few other niggles
the fan keeps coming on and off constantly - it was about 3 degrees today, can't imagine what it would be like in the summer
back light goes out when i brake - i think it'll be an earth fault
also a couple of relays are on constantly - need to investigate those
also the gearbox is touching the crossmember (pic below) - i'm guessing thats the gearbox or engine mounts? the picture was taken before i removed the sump - it's a lot cleaner now
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other than that all good - even managed a little powerslide :mrgreen:



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