Will's GTC disasters

If you have a long-term project and would like to share/document progress, this is for you.

Moderators: scimjim, Roger Pennington, philhoward, Lukeyboy46, erikscimitardemon

User avatar
scimjim
RSSOC Member
Posts: 40772
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:08 pm
Location: Gloucester

Will's GTC disasters

Post by scimjim » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:50 am

and longer input shaft :)


Jim King

SECURE DRY STORAGE FOR YOUR SCIMITAR

Current: SE5 (8Ball), 1400 1600 1800 Zetec ST170 powered SS1 (G97), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre, TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR).
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), 1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
CURE THE FAULT - NOT THE SYMPTOMS

gtcse8
RSSOC Member
Posts: 3191
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:11 am
Location: Steeton, Yorkshire Dales

Will's GTC disasters

Post by gtcse8 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:17 am

They cerpaintly did, one of my 6b`s is 4sp OD. :!:

Which incidentally is going to have to go, along with most of my other projects. ( The car that is, not the gearbox :lol: )

I`m resigned to the fact I will/can`t ever finish them for the near future. :cry:

I suppose I had better put this in the correct category :wink:

Mark


Mark Wilson. Garage sale everything must go. :cry:1 SE6b, 1 GTC Shell &1 SE6a shell & a Triumph Daytona. Also on YouTube :wink: lookup V8 Chevy https://youtu.be/lbpvDGAMY6g https://youtu.be/7xTrbr0ETSA https://youtu.be/K7HfYVd5Flo

Will Yarrow
RSSOC Member
Posts: 136
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:46 pm
Location: Barnet
Contact:

Will's GTC disasters

Post by Will Yarrow » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:33 pm

Sorry to hear that Mark, I'm worried I'll never finish this one. I do have a couple of bikes to sell as well for the same reason, plus the new congestion charge rubbish.



Will Yarrow
RSSOC Member
Posts: 136
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:46 pm
Location: Barnet
Contact:

Will's GTC disasters

Post by Will Yarrow » Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:58 pm

Well at last some progress has been made, an injector test bed was made and it failed due to the cheap chinese injector tester I got off amazon or ebay, it would fire one injector but not all six as planned, so all I could do was time how long it took 50ccs of fuel to pump through each one, not the acurate test I'd planned, but they all were with in half a second ish.
Injector_test_bed_001.jpg
Injector_test_bed_001.jpg (164.13 KiB) Viewed 2082 times
Injector_test_bed_002.jpg
Injector_test_bed_002.jpg (200.71 KiB) Viewed 2082 times
Injector_test_bed_003.jpg
Injector_test_bed_003.jpg (200.42 KiB) Viewed 2082 times
With the injectors roughly tested (VFR) I moved on to the clutch pilot bearing, it seemed silly not to change it whilst everythings apart. Looking on youtube, it was suggested packing behind the bearing with grease and a swift tap with a half inch bolt and a lump hammer, the bearing would move outwards. After I had wiped all the grease of my face i realised this wouldn't work. Back to youtube and bread was sugested in the same way, well why not and it really worked a treat, just ram it in there, hit and bob's your uncle.
Bread_is the _Answer_001.jpg
Bread_is the _Answer_001.jpg (241.32 KiB) Viewed 2082 times
Bread_is the _Answer_002.jpg
Bread_is the _Answer_002.jpg (228.56 KiB) Viewed 2082 times
Bread_is the _Answer_003.jpg
Bread_is the _Answer_003.jpg (271.49 KiB) Viewed 2082 times
yes I know I could have made a puller, but the red mist had set in.
Once the weather had improved I got a few mates round to start putting the big bits back together. The chassis was in the back garden and upside down apparently.
Chassis_001.jpg
Chassis_001.jpg (300.9 KiB) Viewed 2082 times
and the engine in the garage
Engine_and_gearbox_001.jpg
Engine_and_gearbox_001.jpg (235.75 KiB) Viewed 2082 times
so a fair amount of lifting and cursing was required. luckily I knew the right people for the job and I promised beer.
worrying _moments02.JPG
worrying _moments02.JPG (251.33 KiB) Viewed 2082 times
worrying_moments03.JPG
worrying_moments03.JPG (263.7 KiB) Viewed 2082 times
Engine_in_002.jpg
Engine_in_002.jpg (283.43 KiB) Viewed 2082 times
And at last with Les on the engine hoist holding the back end and four of us lifting the front, it all went back together.
together_at_last.jpg
together_at_last.jpg (281.24 KiB) Viewed 2082 times
now the real work begins, thanks for listening.
Attachments
worrying_moments01.JPG
worrying_moments01.JPG (267.57 KiB) Viewed 2082 times



Will Yarrow
RSSOC Member
Posts: 136
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:46 pm
Location: Barnet
Contact:

Will's GTC disasters

Post by Will Yarrow » Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:03 pm

I have no idea why some photos have randomly rotated, they are all good my end, please feel free to rotate your laptops.



User avatar
philhoward
RSSOC Member
Posts: 27916
Joined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:41 pm
Location: Staffs, UK
Contact:

Will's GTC disasters

Post by philhoward » Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:13 pm

Like you, I have a 100% failure rate using grease to remove the bearing but bread is a new one on me!

Last time I needed to remove one I think I used a rawlbolt.


Phil Howard
Scimitarweb Forum Admin
SS1 1600 Rooster Turbo; Sabre Mk1.5, Sabre Mk2
SS1 Racer
Previous: SE5/5a/SS1 No.1/SS1 Rooster/SS1 1800Ti/SE5a 24 Valve
http://www.ss1turbo.com
Never try and argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you based on experience.

Will Yarrow
RSSOC Member
Posts: 136
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:46 pm
Location: Barnet
Contact:

Will's GTC disasters

Post by Will Yarrow » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:00 pm

The bread realy worked, just keep ramming more in, till it moves. Grease was useless as was silicone, I was going to use a chopped 10mm bolt, wedge and a slide hammer if that had failed.



User avatar
David Tew
RSSOC Member
Posts: 729
Joined: Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:09 am
Location: Cotswolds

Will's GTC disasters

Post by David Tew » Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:50 pm

For about £20 you can get a set of blind bearing pullers to screw onto the end of a slide hammer.

Invaluable even if you have access to both sides of a bearing as they give a straight pull (and you don't have to raid the bread bin!). :)


- My wife says I don't listen to her ...... or something like that! -
SE4B Coupe - rebuilt on brand-new chassis.
Bought in 1978 and an RSSOC member since. 😲

Will Yarrow
RSSOC Member
Posts: 136
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:46 pm
Location: Barnet
Contact:

Will's GTC disasters

Post by Will Yarrow » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:45 pm

I was on a mission with the bread, but yes blind bearing pullers are definitely the better solution, bread is the best of the others though



Will Yarrow
RSSOC Member
Posts: 136
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:46 pm
Location: Barnet
Contact:

Will's GTC disasters

Post by Will Yarrow » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:19 pm

As I seem to have got a bit of momentum going now, I thought I'd start on the Gearstick and linkage, I rebuilt the manual gearshift I got from QRG over the winter, so it was just a case of fitting it, or so I thought. The hole in the prop tunnel had two holes that matched the front two holes in the Gearstick housing so I bolted it up and tested it, bugger it was an inch short.
Existing holes possition.jpg
Existing holes possition.jpg (307.15 KiB) Viewed 1853 times
So I had to reglass over the existing hole and cut a new one out, my first propper go at fiberglass.
Ground down.jpg
Ground down.jpg (286.87 KiB) Viewed 1853 times
Taped up from below.jpg
Taped up from below.jpg (120.73 KiB) Viewed 1853 times
Taped up from top.jpg
Taped up from top.jpg (282.16 KiB) Viewed 1853 times
wedging.jpg
wedging.jpg (149.8 KiB) Viewed 1853 times
Cutup Matting.jpg
Cutup Matting.jpg (269.53 KiB) Viewed 1853 times
Glassed up.jpg
Glassed up.jpg (285.75 KiB) Viewed 1853 times
Chopped cup.jpg
Chopped cup.jpg (314.01 KiB) Viewed 1853 times
Gearlever in.jpg
Gearlever in.jpg (306.36 KiB) Viewed 1853 times
And I have gears.jpg
And I have gears.jpg (281 KiB) Viewed 1853 times
After testing all the gears worked, wahey! but what a horrible job it is fitting the linkages and tightening the housing under the car, never again.
Now I need a Manual pedalbox, if anyone listening has one in the shed there's an add on the wanted section, or just PM me. I did have this one but the bolt holes don't line up and the throttle pull is from the bottom, anyone know what it's off?
Pedalbox001.jpg
Pedalbox001.jpg (206.86 KiB) Viewed 1853 times
Pedalbox002.jpg
Pedalbox002.jpg (228.4 KiB) Viewed 1853 times



User avatar
DARK STAR
RSSOC Member
Posts: 6832
Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:56 pm
Location: Antibes, France
Contact:

Will's GTC disasters

Post by DARK STAR » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:27 pm

Pretty sure I have a SE6 one, presumably the same ... except I don't know if it's hydraulic or cable clutch.
I'll have a rummage tomorrow.


Chris Johnson
RSSOC 1979> Rhubarb SE6a V8 1979-1997 Dark Star Coupé 1989> Scimitar France 2010> Vert Soleil GTC 2014-2018
Scimitar France Website site Scimitar EUROPEEN
On the road I don't drive fast, but I don't slow down for corners
In competition I drive very fast, but not always on the track ...

User avatar
philhoward
RSSOC Member
Posts: 27916
Joined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:41 pm
Location: Staffs, UK
Contact:

Will's GTC disasters

Post by philhoward » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:46 pm

An SE6 one will be hydraulic- unless it’s a Middlebridge one in which case it’ll be cable.

That looks like a 5/a one to me?


Phil Howard
Scimitarweb Forum Admin
SS1 1600 Rooster Turbo; Sabre Mk1.5, Sabre Mk2
SS1 Racer
Previous: SE5/5a/SS1 No.1/SS1 Rooster/SS1 1800Ti/SE5a 24 Valve
http://www.ss1turbo.com
Never try and argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you based on experience.

User avatar
DARK STAR
RSSOC Member
Posts: 6832
Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:56 pm
Location: Antibes, France
Contact:

Will's GTC disasters

Post by DARK STAR » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:56 pm

I seem to think I got it for my brake conversion on the Coupé - which has a cable clutch (Middlebridge).
Were all SE6/a/b hydraulic ?
I didn't use it because it was too big, so it's in the garage ... somewhere 8)


Chris Johnson
RSSOC 1979> Rhubarb SE6a V8 1979-1997 Dark Star Coupé 1989> Scimitar France 2010> Vert Soleil GTC 2014-2018
Scimitar France Website site Scimitar EUROPEEN
On the road I don't drive fast, but I don't slow down for corners
In competition I drive very fast, but not always on the track ...

Will Yarrow
RSSOC Member
Posts: 136
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:46 pm
Location: Barnet
Contact:

Will's GTC disasters

Post by Will Yarrow » Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:51 am

Ah Darkstar, you sound like you have a garage like mine. It has to be for a hydraulic (excuse the poor spelling previously, I blame it on the fiberglass fumes) clutch, as thats the way it is now and it would be too much work to change it over.
Phil thanks for spotting what the other one was, another thing to sell when it's running unless anyone needs one now.



Will Yarrow
RSSOC Member
Posts: 136
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:46 pm
Location: Barnet
Contact:

Will's GTC disasters

Post by Will Yarrow » Thu May 09, 2019 5:53 pm

Does anyone have a picture of a Middlebridge throttle pedal, i.e. the part where it conects to the throttle cable. I know what I can weld on to do the job, but wondered wether I had the right cable or if there's a more elegant solution. Also what's the switch/sensor on the engine end of the cable?
existing_ball_end.jpg
existing_ball_end.jpg (196.86 KiB) Viewed 1652 times
Granada_Cabin_cable_end.jpg
Granada_Cabin_cable_end.jpg (176.79 KiB) Viewed 1652 times
switch.jpg
switch.jpg (160.53 KiB) Viewed 1652 times



Post Reply

Return to “Project Progress”