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Post by Datsundrew » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:07 pm

Isn’t it just Phil! It actually drives guide nicely now, and the engine has definitely loosened up quite a lot. I guess the average ssangyong musso auto engine doesn’t really see fast starts and 5000rpm. It is now. Lol



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Post by philhoward » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:13 pm

I still can’t get over how user friendly that gear linkage is!


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Post by Datsundrew » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:38 pm

It’s actually really good to use, a bit clunky when it’s cold, but doesn’t feel like it’ll break.



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Post by adamwilkes » Mon May 18, 2020 5:33 pm

It's long ago, but did you find a fix for the noise? Was it exhausts hitting chassis?

EDIT - I think you found it was all the front suspension & steering; a bit slow to catch up, me :shock:


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Post by Datsundrew » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:49 pm

I’m back! Looking at the last post it’s coming up to 2 years since any reports. The main reason for this is that there’s actually been nothing to report on.
I don’t use the scimitar a lot, and I only got it originally to be a second vehicle for when the Landrover broke, or I planned to go on a longer trip. I tend to use it when the weather is crap and I’d rather not get the stiletto out for a show, so take the scim. I am really happy with it so far, it has been totally reliable apart from the oil filter incident! It’s been to quite a few shows and meets, and it’s a great motorway car, and it tows well. I average around 50mpg, and it’s been on 100% veg oil for a couple of years now, these old mercedes engines love it!



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Post by Datsundrew » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:11 pm

So, as some may have seen on the modified scimitar page on Facebook, I have been playing about trying to get air conditioning into my scimitar.
A bit of background here as to how it came about....
As some will know, myself and my partner own a few classic cars. My partner Mark has a Volvo Amazon, which was our daily car after a disastrous Citroen purchase and I modified it to be a better daily, which it did very well for 10 years, until we bought a Volvo 850 T5. The amazon had a knackered engine, so I put a Perkins td (montego) engine in it, I replaced the seats with Citroen xm seats as the originals were mint but not that comfy, so they went in the attic to save them. I’ve done massive amounts of welding and paint to keep it tidy and it’s a great car, BUT.....
SO, March 2020, and we have covid 19, and we have lockdown. Everyone stay at home! I decided almost immediately that there were jobs on the Volvo that I’d put off, and needed lots of time, and 8 weeks would do very nicely. I had all the materials necessary, so set about tackling rust again......all 4 screen pillars (a common issue on these) and the sill I’ve been plating (budging) for 5 years.
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Post by Datsundrew » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:23 pm

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So after 4 weeks out in the glorious sunshine, in my man cave area, it was looking the best it’s ever been. A conversation with Mark about using it more turned to the issue with the heavy steering, and the fact it was the hottest car in the world in the sun. A lot of research and I came to the conclusion that fitting electric power steering may be an option, so I purchased a corsa b steering column , and a controller that mimics ecu input to regulate the amount of assistance and set about on a cut and shut mission. It went well, and it now has power steering......it has absolutely transformed the car, it’s an absolute joy to park it now.



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Post by Datsundrew » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:24 pm

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Post by efi_sprintgte » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:48 pm

I look forward to seeing the air con setup, something I’ve wanted to do for ages.


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Post by Datsundrew » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:11 pm

It’s coming Efi!
So, I looked at fitting air con to the Amazon years ago, and gave up with the idea almost immediately. There is no room either side of the engine, and relocating the alternator to a new high up position on a fabricated bracket I made proved troublesome, In that it would shear the bracket every time it did a long motorway trip, so adding another bracket would be ridiculous. The perkins also has a v belt and not serpentine, and no room to fit a double crank pulley either.
One thing that has changed in the last 10 years is the arrival of a lathe in my garage, and lots of spare lockdown time gave me time to play with some pulleys I had lying about, and that led me on to machining some spacers and adaptors, which I then trial fitted to a spare engine I dragged out of the shed. After few dramas, I managed to get pulleys made and fitted, and then went on eBay to find a small alternator, and found a denso 65amp from a perodua.....whatever the f^ck that is!
The alternator is tight up against the block on a very difficult to make bracket, and belt tension is made by an adjustable idler pulley. Moving the alternator then made room up top for a compressor to take its place
Now, back last year, I had bought an air con kit to fit a type 2 camper on Facebook pages for £200, with the thoughts that I may be able to fit it in the scimitar, the plan being to use the mercedes standard compressor mounting, and mount the evaporator ( the cooler bit that goes in the car) where the back seat is /was, as I don’t have a rear seat. The hoses, Being stupidly long as it was for a bus with rear engine/ front mounting would be long enough to run through the sill.



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Post by Datsundrew » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:37 pm

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Post by Datsundrew » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:38 pm

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Post by Datsundrew » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:41 pm

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Post by Datsundrew » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:42 pm

As you can see, the alternator is a close call!



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Post by Datsundrew » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:55 pm

Having got the engine bits to actually fit, pulleys to line up, and transferring the whole set up over to the engine in the Volvo...with a few hiccups and minor modifications on the way, I then went to look at how the rest of the bits may fit.
Most modern cars use the same connectors on the compressor and the condenser, and come with their pre made pipes, the set up I’d bought has screw fittings, and I gave up trying to find or make adaptors, and not able to weld aluminium didn’t help.



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