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Philip's thread of 660XYB stuff

Post by Old and Slow » Sun May 03, 2015 3:38 pm

Can anyone advise what angle the casting line at approx "2-o'clock" on the chain cover is? It appears to be used as the initial timing mark for the notch in the pulley, so presumably this sets the static ignition timing.
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Re: Zephyr 6 timing marks

Post by peter freeman » Sun May 03, 2015 4:38 pm

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Re: Zephyr 6 timing marks

Post by Roger Pennington » Sun May 03, 2015 7:36 pm

It might be worth, having a look at this thread (in the members' technical archive) :)


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Early Front Shock Absorbers

Post by Old and Slow » Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:37 pm

The Sabre Six has received its new MOT today, but there's an advisory, "leaking front shocks". Mine has the TR4 (I think!) suspension, adjustable with threaded collars under the springs, does anyone have any suggestions on what replacements to fit?
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Re: Early Front Shock Absorbers

Post by Scimher » Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:39 pm

...Well done on the MOT....



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Re: Early Front Shock Absorbers

Post by Coupe Racing » Tue Aug 25, 2015 7:44 pm

Old and Slow wrote:The Sabre Six has received its new MOT today, but there's an advisory, "leaking front shocks". Mine has the TR4 (I think!) suspension, adjustable with threaded collars under the springs, does anyone have any suggestions on what replacements to fit?
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Re: Early Front Shock Absorbers

Post by Roger Pennington » Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:23 pm

Hi Philip, as this is Richard Prosser's old rally car, it might be worth taking off the old ones and seeing if there are any identification markings, as he might have done something "different" to it? :)


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Re: Early Front Shock Absorbers

Post by heathsabre » Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:14 pm

Hi Philip

I replaced RUR’s front dampers and springs a couple of years ago with GAZ units, their model GP8 5057. I would suggest you give them a ring to discuss the details – 01268 724585, ask for David Lion. I found him very knowledgeable and helpful. I started with 200lb, 10” springs but found these a little soft so replaced them with 225lb, 10”.


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Re: Early Front Shock Absorbers

Post by Old and Slow » Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:45 pm

Just a note following Roger's advice; they are AVO shocks, their website lists early straight-six Reliants and recommends PD371 on the front. I can't see any model number on them so I've contacted AVO and hopefully I'll find out more.


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Re: Early Front Shock Absorbers

Post by philhoward » Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:57 pm

They might be for the straight six Coupe as opposed to the Sabre Six? I've no idea if they are the same or not though.


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Re: Zephyr 6 timing marks

Post by Old and Slow » Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:52 pm

Hi Roger,
A belated update - I looked at the thread, and in the meantime bought a 1967 Pearson's Service Manual for Zephyr 4 & 6. It states that the timing mark is 8 deg BTDC, so that's the figure I'll go with. Also, I notice the pulley/damper has a circumference of almost exactly 36 inches, so a piece of sticky tape marked in 1/10th's of an inch equals 2 degrees per division, and using the strobe shows the advance/retard operating through the rev range; static 14 to 34 degrees max advance at 3500rpm.
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Re: Early Front Shock Absorbers

Post by Old and Slow » Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:55 pm

Here's the latest; the fronts are PD372 which AVO recommend for the rear (!) but are fairly similar to the 371, 5mm different stroke length, apparently. However, the rears are SPAX, so I think I'll fit new AVO PD371s at the front and have the 372s' refurbished and fit them at the rear (and throw away the SPAX as they are non-refurbishable).
The springs seem OK all round, so I'll re-use them. Thanks for all the help.


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Prop Shaft UJs

Post by Old and Slow » Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:59 am

Sabre Six 660XYB has the MkII Jaguar (Moss) gearbox and Salisbury 7HA diff, and the prop shaft has UJs' front and rear with a slidey bit in the middle, but the UJs don't have grease nipples. Do you know if these can be replaced with UJs that have drilled oilways and grease nipples fitted? Otherwise I can't see how to lubricate the UJs - any suggestions?
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Re: Prop Shaft UJs

Post by peter freeman » Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:45 am

Most parts now don't have simple things like grease nipples - just look at the top wishbone ball joints. Andy might have a source -otherwise a spray grease ?



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Re: Prop Shaft UJs

Post by philynnbob » Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:07 am

Hi Philip ( good name and spelt right)! :D
Not knowing what size your prop shaft is, so only guessing but just fitted these to my straight 6 prop
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-RELIANT-DAI ... RRoP6fF6NA
However upon removing my old ones I noticed that under all the muck that a blanking screw was fitted where the grease nipple fits.
May be worth a quick look on yours?
See you are attending Le Mans next year, I only went for the first time last year so cannot really advise days areas as it is still very new to me also. But what a fantastic weekend.
Philip



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