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SS1 1600 'Reg'

Post by tickman » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:17 pm

Now I have a current MOT and some road tax I can start a project thread.
Pictures will follow but I have spent the last two days trying to get my computer to not crash! So far it is working, just! :D

It is a 1985 1600 twin wiper model that was bought on a bit of a whim. I have been looking for a fun car which was cheap and had been mostly looking at MX5's but everything in my price range was a little 'tired' if I am being honest. When this came up on Gumtree I decided to go and have a look with the intention that as long as it wasn't dreadful it was worth a try. It wasn't dreadful so decision made :wink:
I had to pick it up on a trailer as the only day suitable was the bank holiday and the garage was closed which ruled out the drive straight to the MOT idea I had. Picked up and deposited on my long suffering friendly neighbours drive for the night. In the morning I booked the MOT and set off. What great fun it was getting there, it runs quite rough idling at about 1200 and hunting as well but picks up fine on a run. During the MOT some not very welding was noticed which is down as an advisory on the MOT but I burst a brake line on test. Just as well, better than coming up to a slip road at 70 which was less than half an hour before.
The only other things were number plate bulbs, front sidelight bulb and untidy wiring next to the starter/exhaust.
Brake pipes done and while bleeding up struggled to get a good pedal. Discovered two pistons were seized in the front right calliper as well as each calliper only having one bleed nipple :roll:
New callipers fitted and bled, some cable ties for the wiring and some number plate bulbs and we were nearly there! The front sidelight was another story, the bulb holder was not working and a piece of wire had been poked through to make one of the connections, which it didn't no matter what I did nothing worked! after a bit of thought I went to Maplin the providers of usually quite useless tat and got some LED's with wire already on and proceeded to drill a hole in the back of the housing. With this done two LED's fitted and expertly wired in (a bit of tape for now) and off for the retest.
Retest completed and we have a pass :D
Oddly the MOT retest was yesterday 16/04/2015 it was first registered 16/04/1985 so exactly 30 years to the day. This is why he is now called 'Reg' (because fate or destiny were a bit rubbish as a name)

That is now up to date but there is plenty more to come I am sure.

If you have read all of that, well done/sorry delete as appropriate.

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Post by CNHSS1 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:37 pm

good luck and hope you enjoy :-)


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Post by Roger Pennington » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:45 pm

Thanks for that, I enjoyed the story of the name, if you've got a sense of humour you'll be well equipped to handle the occasions when the car becomes less fun and more challenging, Most of the time though they're great little cars, and very enjoyable :D I look forward to seeing the photos :)


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Post by tickman » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:30 pm

Well a long time has passed since the last post.

First off a couple of pictures.
Obviously really bad phone pictures are what everyone needs here:
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I am using him daily (as needed) which is great fun.

I am trying to get him to run properly but I do not have the required 'dark arts' qualification which I have always thought is required to tune cars.
It has improved massively with being used which is a bonus but I have a very rough idle and 'hunting' when just sitting.

I will probably start a thread for this but can anyone point out the relevant screws on the carb or even which weber carb it is?

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Finaly quick question for adjusting the roof so it sits properly on the drivers side, the passenger's side is perfect.

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Thanks for bothering to look.

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Post by Alan SS1 » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:18 pm

for the roof fitting, try bending the centre 'hoop' or put a wee spacer onto the small flat horizontal 'stop' in the middle of frame, it is about 20mm square, I tapped a small block of delrin to it to kind-of get the frame to sit 'flat' as it was going beyond the horizontal. easier to see than describe

rough idle 'could' be debris in one of the jets if it has sat for a while. check for any splits in the vacuum hoses as well, TBH the carb looks the same as ours, but that doesn't really help, I 'assume' mine is stnd? not easy to trouble shoot , have you looked in local library for a Haynes Manual??, they did a weber one and also Ford Escort etc it might help


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Post by philhoward » Sun Sep 06, 2015 12:09 am

That's a 32DFT carb.


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Post by tickman » Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:39 am

Alan SS1 wrote:for the roof fitting, try bending the centre 'hoop' or put a wee spacer onto the small flat horizontal 'stop' in the middle of frame, it is about 20mm square, I tapped a small block of delrin to it to kind-of get the frame to sit 'flat' as it was going beyond the horizontal. easier to see than describe
Thanks, will have a look at it and try and see what you mean :D
Alan SS1 wrote:rough idle 'could' be debris in one of the jets if it has sat for a while. check for any splits in the vacuum hoses as well, TBH the carb looks the same as ours, but that doesn't really help, I 'assume' mine is stnd? not easy to trouble shoot , have you looked in local library for a Haynes Manual??, they did a weber one and also Ford Escort etc it might help
I have tried cleaning but with no improvement!
philhoward wrote:That's a 32DFT carb.
Brilliant, thanks to this information I now have an exploded diagram which clearly shows that I have only cleaned the Main jets not the Idle jets.
Hopefully I can have another go now!
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SS1 1600 'Reg'

Post by tickman » Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:29 pm

Well it has been a while!
Reg has been sitting waiting his turn at the back of the workshop
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I have been distracted by many things, a Triumph Toledo, a Couple of Morris Minors, a couple of fast Clios, a rather large Jag and many daily cars that have come and gone but Reg has sat and waited. I'm still in the middle (hopefully) of sorting a Morris Minor but felt the need for a slight diversion so out he came.
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He got a brush off.
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Then a wash
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Then the bonnet off for better access
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A reference picture for the obvious
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Access much improved and a handy standing space
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New belt on after checking the waterpump was ok. I also didn't have a waterpump handy!
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Now was the joy of getting the headlight to do their thing and understanding the purpose of all of these
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Had to strip the nearside unit down as it was making a horrid noise and was stiff to turn by hand
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Much easier access for the rest of the wiring
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That will be why it wasn't working properly one of the magnets had broken
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Someone has kindly used Scotchlocks to attempt to wire things, of course they work as well as expected.
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I reattached the piece of magnet
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Using this stuff
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Tested with the power probe which has been a God send.
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Then I spent ages working through the how the headlight should work from on here and eventually found one of these at fault.
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I have got a bit of enthusiasm back for getting him back on the road, how long that lasts depends on the success I have with the wiring but today was a bit of a win so moving in the right direction at least.

More when it happens which will hopefully not be five years down the line!



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Post by philhoward » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:48 am

Nice work 8)



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Post by MadMax » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:43 am

Good efforts! I bought an Autel power probe for work, now one of my most used tools :D Might be worth checking the fuel hoses if it's been sat for a while?


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Post by tickman » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:07 am

Fuel hoses were new 5 years ago but that means nothing so I will find some ethanol proof stuff and fit it.



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Post by philhoward » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:34 am

AJL Electronics, over to you..


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Post by AJL Electronics » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:43 am

Fit and forget. Cohline genuine fuel hose 100% guaranteed against any road fuel that you care to put down it, including neat ethanol and full immersion. I can trace this hose right back to the factory so I give it my own lifetime warranty too. In five years, I haven't had a single query, let alone a quality complaint. I'm told that it is fitted as OEM to the big German marques.

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Post by tickman » Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:57 pm

Safe hose supply noted and I don't even have to go looking for it as it is in my thread so that is a win.

Today I went from this.
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To this.
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Fitting the headlight cover panel wasn't the most fun job ever.
Took at least an hour to get it so the headlight didn't catch on it but got there eventually.



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