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Post by manny » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:32 pm

to be fair the chap who does my MOTs is a Reliant man himself ( he has several) -so i do trust him and recently i helped him sell a Mk1 2 owner Reliant Robin -- i do know the chassis outriggers corners behind the front wheels were clearly on the way out - which is why i purchased the spare GTE... but i never got round to learning to weld....



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Post by philhoward » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:38 pm

Perhaps the rear bits mentioned are the other usual rust trap on the rear diagonal?


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Post by manny » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:50 pm

philhoward wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:38 pm
Perhaps the rear bits mentioned are the other usual rust trap on the rear diagonal?
most likely - i have the car on my drive so will take a few pics for reference...



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Post by manny » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:47 pm

Good day all,

its bloomin freeezen!!!
Today I attended to the 'lights insecure' on the MOT failure- looks like the spring that provides tension on the adjusting ring - had very little tension - so simply wound the spring in at the bowl end - and this seems to have done the trick!.
...now i have not started the car since the MOT - i gave the battery a charge- and then when i tried to start it - not a peep!!..
Using a 12v test lamp - i can confirm the following:
1. the green\white solenoid wire has power when the ignition is in the starting position
2. The small brown wire ( solenoid power?) has power
3. The large brown starter motor has power..
4 The starter relay does click and provide power to light the lamp..
5 when trying to start the car - the lights on the dash to dim - so power is being delivered

so can i conclude the starter motor unit is the culprit?? It maybe a jammed solenoid?


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Post by scimjim » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:47 pm

If the lights dim it points to a flat battery or stuck starter or solenoid - no clunk from the solenoid? give it a tap with a jack handle to see.


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Post by manny » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:37 pm

scimjim wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:47 pm
If the lights dim it points to a flat battery or stuck starter or solenoid - no clunk from the solenoid? give it a tap with a jack handle to see.
Thanks ,I suspect as such ,will give it a good wallop tomorrow



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Post by manny » Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:45 pm

Good day all,

so yesterday i got my car down to my MOT garage ( forget how good it goes) to assess the welding needed to get it back on the road....they phoned back this morning and stated ' it will need the body to come off...'
I am going to the garage tomorrow and take some pics of the areas they need to access and will post for ideas\suggestions...
i may sell as is ...we will see.

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Post by efi_sprintgte » Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:15 pm

manny wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:45 pm
assess the welding needed to get it back on the road....they phoned back this morning and stated ' it will need the body to come off...'
I am going to the garage tomorrow and take some pics of the areas they need to access and will post for ideas\suggestions...

I will reserve judgement until pics, but I would be suprised if the shell needs to come off. Most things can be done in situe.


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Post by Will Yarrow » Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:38 pm

I would say, unless it's painting the chassis, you can do everything with the body on 4" blocks at the mounting points ( 2 at the front, 2 at the back and something in the middle if you want to open the doors) you will need the bumpers off for this so you might as well lift the whole lot off. GYS migs are only £400 add on £200 for a helmet gloves and gas and away you go, they really are point and squirt, 18 to 20v flat out on .6 wire, even the missus could do it.



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Post by scimjim » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:05 pm

Agree with JC - only the most corroded cars actually need the body removing. The centre rails rarely rust badly and everything else can be done in situ.


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Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:46 pm

Yes, the Yellow Peril's front outriggers, side rails, and roll-bar bottoms, were all done in-situ (with access holes cut where necessary, and replaced afterwards)


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Post by manny » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:07 am

Good day all,

thank you folks- i think i agree...i will try to work on the car rather than give in- it will also help build mojo towards tackling the GTC too- my only concern is if the welding is needed at\near structural stressed points- i may get the body off the chassis and pay for the welding - i am off to see the car now - will post pics soon..

Ta

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Post by gtcse8 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:43 am

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When you arrive to collect the SS1 HT I can walk you through the welding procedure on the chassis I have sitting outside waiting for rectification.

I have a chassis roller that allows a massive amount of access to replace nearly all parts on a chassis.

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Post by manny » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:31 pm

gtcse8 wrote:
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Manny
When you arrive to collect the SS1 HT I can walk you through the welding procedure on the chassis I have sitting outside waiting for rectification.

I have a chassis roller that allows a massive amount of access to replace nearly all parts on a chassis.

Mark
thanks Mark - i will be up one of the Sat very soon...before the weather turns!!

Now then pics.

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looks like its just the extremities of the out riggers- my chap was not too keen on cutting holes to repair- which is fair enough- he also recommended lifting the body slightly and try it myself to save costs...

So body removal\lifting will proceed over the coming weeks...

Ta

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Post by manny » Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:46 pm

Just realised my car is MOT exempt :D -but still going to get it sorted and retested for peace of mind..



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