Body back on...Woo! (SE6A in Hants)

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Body back on...Woo! (SE6A in Hants)

Post by PlasticMan » Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:54 pm

As Wayne Carrini would say "this car has real Pa-Teen-ah!" or patina to us Brits, ....

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I purchased Cleveleys2 (Colin to the rest of us) SE6A last weekend, its the only car I have ever bought which had a caveat on the receipt "restore or return!". As I very much intend to get it back on the road so that's fine by me. Over the bank holiday it was all a bit tiring and involved, all I managed other than collecting the car was, a bit of a clean up. The outside was grubby, the windows sort of opaque and the headlining and seats were growing new life, maybe it was penicillin, maybe it was some other kind of mould? Not sure so it got a dousing of vinegar then shampoo.

Anyway this weekend I have been having a proper poke around, I have wire brushed sections of the chassis, then re painted with hammerite if its solid. Looking around the cabin I noticed that the passenger seat belt real was detached, on further investigation I found that the seat belt mounting point is rotten and is no longer connected to the chassis.

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The drivers side is similar but the inertia reel is still attached, I tried to remove the unit but the bolt is stuck fast. Question...... Are the seat belts easy to get hold of? I'm thinking of destroying the inertia reel unit to get to the seat belt bolt as its got to come out. Also is this a repair that can be carried out with the body on, just cutting out fibreglass to better access the areas concerned?
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Re: Looks okay from a distance...... (SE6A in Hants)

Post by AJL Electronics » Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:37 pm

Ooh! Hackles rising. Still, that other stuff hasn't been mentioned, so my soapbox will remain unmounted. ;-)

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Re: Looks okay from a distance...... (SE6A in Hants)

Post by PlasticMan » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:36 am

Further update...

Some of the wiring is interesting, I haven't seen this many scotch locks since I was in the electrical isle in Halfords circa 1997.....
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Honestly there are about 5 or six tucked in there, so I will have to crack out the soldering iron.

I've also noticed this... I think they are/were body to chassis bolts, looks like somebody was in the process of removing the body but stopped?
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I'm starting to think taking the body off to find out whats underneath might be a plan?



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Re: Looks okay from a distance...... (SE6A in Hants)

Post by AJL Electronics » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:45 am

Ah, a true believer then! Your little faux pas with the H$€€%#}|~e is forgiven! It's interesting how many people think that cutting into a cable with one of those Scotchlok things is somehow a good idea.

If you are taking the body off, bear in mind what a big job it is. There is a thread recently posted showing the fixing positions for the SE6a chassis that should help.


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Re: Looks okay from a distance...... (SE6A in Hants)

Post by peter freeman » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:52 am

There is nothing special about the seat belts and they are easy to get, QRG sell plates to replace the rusted section just below the belt fixing - how good are your welding skills.



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Re: Looks okay from a distance...... (SE6A in Hants)

Post by Autofive » Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:20 am

i have a set of seat belts

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Post by scimjim » Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:57 pm

I suspect that the scotchloks may be for a trailer socket?


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Post by AJL Electronics » Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:13 pm

Since when has that been any sort of excuse? ;-)


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Re: Looks okay from a distance...... (SE6A in Hants)

Post by scimjim » Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:54 pm

Somewhere around 1983? :-)


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Re: Looks okay from a distance...... (SE6A in Hants)

Post by PlasticMan » Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:15 pm

Question for AJ, what don't you like about Hammerite? My view was as I have scrapped a thin layer of paint/rust off, determined that what was left was pretty good, I had probably best cover the exposed metal with something and hammerite seems like a sensible solution. Is there an issue that I ought to be aware of?



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Re: Looks okay from a distance...... (SE6A in Hants)

Post by AJL Electronics » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:03 pm

Yes in a word. Hammerite is not what you think it is. The formula has changed considerably since we all used to swear by it. Nowadays people just swear AT it. Even in its original formula, it was unsuitable for chassis use. The major issue is that it dried very hard and was prone to chipping. This allows corrosion to start under the paint, unseen. Eventually, you get lots of frilly ( but very pretty) chassis remains.

There are various treatments than can be recommended. Personally, I like POR-15 although it isn't a cheap option. You could use chassis black and keep it touched up, or Waxoyl type treatments. If it were a choice between unprotected chassis and Hammerite, I would leave it unprotected until I could do it properly.


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Re: Looks okay from a distance...... (SE6A in Hants)

Post by Coco La Blanc » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:35 pm

Plasticman (?),
I have recently had my wife's SE6a Resprayed and also had to cut out the interipor panels whilst completing (now finished and ready to renistate cutouts) the Roll Over Bar repairs as you will be required to do. If you want to have a looksee then contact me via a PM and I'll send you contact details.
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Re: Looks okay from a distance...... (SE6A in Hants)

Post by peter freeman » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:40 pm

I am told this is the best stuff - I cannot afford it myself though.
http://www.promain.co.uk/product/RAL900 ... 50_clid201



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Re: Looks okay from a distance...... (SE6A in Hants)

Post by victorgte » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:41 pm

My chassis was waxoyld 8 years ago and is still good and solid. Hammerite is good for metal gates and metal fences not Scimitars.


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Re: Looks okay from a distance...... (SE6A in Hants)

Post by AJL Electronics » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:42 pm

I didn't cut any fibreglass out of mine, but I have a suspicion that someone else may have done, seeing how many others say it has to be done. I cut away most of the old bracket with a Dremel and cutting wheel. Then I mounted the new bracket by bolting it to the chassis. Once all aligned, I welded it up. Seems fine and no need to cut great lumps out of the cills.


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