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Post by efi_sprintgte » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:09 pm

I bet you loved Meccano as a kid!!


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Post by Corky » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:18 pm

I never stay with it. Just drop it off and wait for the call. I’ve been using them for the best part of 30 years, they’re very fair, know me and my strange taste in cars, and I do like to support local businesses when I can.

Maybe we’ll discuss the race car thing again when I take it in :lol: :w


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Post by Corky » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:19 pm

efi_sprintgte wrote:
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I bet you loved Meccano as a kid!!
:lol: Certainly did :wink:


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Post by CNHSS1 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:22 pm

scimjim wrote:
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The race seat not moving shouldn’t be a fail - there are exemptions for race cars.
Yes, i agree, even a missing passenger seat is just a notation on the paperwork.


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Post by CNHSS1 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:25 pm

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With the cage and GRP seat, my tester prefers it if I do the lights, horns, wash/wipe as I drive in and drive it onto the brake rollers anyway :D
Yep remember having to wait at mot station for a while so needed both feet on brake pedal to pass as race pads were stone cold :lol:


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Post by CNHSS1 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:25 pm

Glad you like the seat by the way Corky 8)


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Post by philhoward » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:54 pm

It has to be said the front half of the cage comes out a lot quicker than it went in...


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Post by efi_sprintgte » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:15 pm

You should probably get into classic Land Rovers, you can unbolt and bolt up things to your hearts content :lol:


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Post by Alan SS1 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:32 pm

CNHSS1 wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:22 pm
scimjim wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:32 pm
The race seat not moving shouldn’t be a fail - there are exemptions for race cars.
Yes, i agree, even a missing passenger seat is just a notation on the paperwork.
I also thought 'fixed' was acceptable 'reagrdless' but depends on how the MoT tester reads the text

"fore and aft adjustment mechanism not working as intended Major fail"

well if there are NO runners I'd have thought it is working 'as intended' :-)
I do recall submitting a Robin with only one seat, seemed to be OK, although I think it needed both seat-belts? :?


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Post by scimjim » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:36 pm

I think “as intended” means as designed. You don’t have to have a passenger seat for an MOT (the only failure criteria are insecure, defective structure or backrest not restrained upright) and if you don’t have the seat, you don’t need a seat belt.


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Post by philhoward » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:26 pm

scimjim wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:36 pm
I think “as intended” means as designed. You don’t have to have a passenger seat for an MOT (the only failure criteria are insecure, defective structure or backrest not restrained upright) and if you don’t have the seat, you don’t need a seat belt.
Been there, got the pass (with an advisory for no passenger seat too).

I suspect the fixed seat question is likely down to interpretation by the individual tester. Several metres of chunky tubing does rather imply its “modified for motorsport” although the MoT manual only mentions rallying..for which you also need a cage? Targa, anyway.


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Post by scimjim » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:34 pm

This is the official classification - still open to some interpretation and might have been better if they’d used the term “roadgoing competition car” rather than simply the one competition discipline of “rally car”

We are often asked what level of modification is necessary before a vehicle can be classed as a rally car and therefore qualify as a ‘modified vehicle’ as defined in the Introduction section of the MOT inspection manual.

Put simply, the vehicle must be a competition rally car that needs an MOT to be used on the road between stages. Track day cars or vehicles with ‘boy racer’ modifications are not competition rally cars and do not therefore qualify as a ‘modified vehicle’. So if a vehicle like this is not fitted with original equipment items such as a brake servo, airbags or any other SRS (Supplemental Restraint System) equipment, it must fail the MOT test.

Unfortunately, identifying a genuine rally car is not always straightforward due to the variety of classifications. The most obvious evidence will be the mandatory fitment of a steel safety roll-over cage. The rear seats are likely to be removed and there may be longitudinal door bars and substantial underbody protection covering any area of fuel tank exposed to running damage.

The vehicle is also likely to have modified seats with full harness seat belts; a fire extinguisher in the passenger compartment; competition number boxes on the body (not displaying a number) and the emergency towing eyes painted a distinctive colour.

When there is doubt about whether a vehicle is a competition rally car, the presenter is responsible for providing proof to convince the tester that it is a genuine competition vehicle. This could be in the form of a competition certificate from the rally’s governing body.


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Post by philhoward » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:39 pm

Fit an extinguisher then aside from a logbook it meets all the criteria?


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Post by philhoward » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:41 pm

Cage.
No rear seats.
Full harness.
Number boxes (I know, risks the paintwork :mrgreen: )
Highly visible towing eyes.

Haven’t you also got an extinguisher already, Steve?


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Post by Corky » Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:59 am

I’m sure I can convince them, but no need at present.


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