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Post by Roger Pennington » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:36 pm

Thanks Chris, yes, you're right, these events always do seem to attract a lot of Jags, of all sorts. Actually, talking of Jags and their relations, what you can't see in those pics, just next but one to the right of my car, is the new purchase of a friend of mine in SCS. Making it's debut at one of our shows, it's a car perhaps dear to your heart, a Daimler V8-250 in a beautiful deep red. It makes a beautiful burble from the Edward Turner V8 engine :D

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Post by DARK STAR » Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:30 am

There are two more Jags behind, and a Scimitar!

Yes I love the V8-250.
I actually had a Jaguar version but the Daimler is better.
I expect it rusts just as quickly though :roll:


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Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:33 pm

In fact, Chris, there are two other Scimitars in that shot - Gordon's cream Middlebridge is the one you probably spotted, but if you look behind it, with a magnifier, there's David's brown Se6a. I'll post a Car Shows thread shortly, as there was also another Se6a there as well (so four altogether) :)

You're right about rust, it was always the Achilles heel of those Jaguar/Daimler bodies, this one has had a comprehensive restoration so will hopefully have been sorted.


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Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:10 pm

As an antidote to this weeks wet weather, about a week ago I took my lunch up onto the South Downs in the SS1. Just the right sort of day to enjoy a convertible :D

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Post by Rattling » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:54 pm

Very envious of your panel gaps Roger it all looks perfect,great photos as usual!


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Post by Roger Pennington » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:15 pm

Thanks Colin, actually the photos probably flatter the gaps a bit :) One thing that always impresses me though, when I spring clean it and polish it, is how good the paint is - I'd say it's a lot better than either of the others.



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Post by Roger Pennington » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:25 pm

On a slightly different theme, over the winter, I had a problem with my lights - both just suddenly stopped moving. I wound them up, took out the motor fuse, and left them, as it wasn't a problem, in winter, to have the lights stuck up. But then, as the evenings got lighter, I decided I should investigate. It seemed reasonable to think that the fault lay in the part of the wiring that was common, as both sides had failed together. so I started with the relays and fuse in the fusebox and then the red button cut-out. After that the wiring goes from the red button, via a joint which divides it between the two front relays R6 (R/H) and R5 (L/H). I thought that joint would be the last point where the power was common to both sides, so I was anticipating some digging in the loom, especially after I found power coming out of the red button (F8 on the diagram).

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So, I thought I'd better confirm the lack of current arriving at the front of the car, so I took off R6 and as soon as I moved it, one wire fell off, quickly followed by another one, from the same connection. :shock: "That's suspicious", I thought, and it did turn out to be the smoking gun

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It turned out that, on my car at least, the joint isn't actually in the loom, what they seem to have done is put two wires (the supply from the red button, and the bridge to relay R5) into the same spade connector, which seems to have overstrained it, with the result that over time and corrosion, it disintegrated:

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So, the wiring diagram would perhaps be clearer to me as a bit of an electrical numpty, like this, though I don't know if it's actually legal in terms of diagram etiquette! Also I don't know if they are all like this, or if it's a previous owner thing?

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To fix it I replaced the spade connector with just one short wire going in, which I then joined into a 2 to 1 connector a short distance away, to receive the other two purple/green wires.


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Post by scimjim » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:37 pm

I think they’re all like that - but wiring diagrams don’t actually show exactly where connections are (rear lights and number plate lights are a perfect example).


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Post by philhoward » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:40 pm

The diagram is electrically correct but unless anything is wired exactly to the DIN standard (well, in control panels which is my background), then the wires don’t exactly go as you think.

It’s the story of my life following a failing voltage, literally tracing it wire by wire especially when it’s drawn as a “bus” with drops yet it’s actually daisy chained which was was easiest for the wireman, rather than exactly to the order that the draughstman drew then in..


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Post by Roger Pennington » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:06 pm

It certainly is wired as a bus, when you're expecting one wire, and two come along all at once! :lol: It did look as though it might be original, but after 30 years and 8 previous owners, you can't really be sure. I was quite pleased, A. that I managed to find the fault, and B. that the fix only cost 4 spade connectors, 2 inches of wire and a 3-way connector :D if only that happened more often!


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