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Post by Old and Slow » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:51 pm

Thanks for all the suggestions; in the meantime I've ordered a sheet of gasket material, when it arrives I'll update the project, good or bad.


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Post by Old and Slow » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:30 pm

The refurbished clutch turned up today, the gasket stuff yesterday. :)
The clutch is now 7/8 inch thick, face to face, in case anyone wonders how worn their clutch is.

The gasket material has much thicker metal facings, so might be difficult to cut.

Here's a picture of the clutch and gasket stuff
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The thrust and spigot bearings are due to arrive on Saturday, I now need to turn up an alignment tool.


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Post by chrisgallacher » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:37 pm

Shiny bits! (rubs hands on thighs)

Love that clutch :D


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Post by Old and Slow » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:50 pm

I agree: shame it has to be buried deep in the drive train.
As I think I said earlier, it's a Jaguar 8.5" diameter driven plate from the Mk2 2.4 Jaguar. A new one has a Jaguar price (£150 plus) but the refurb was only £60; no brainer.


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Post by Old and Slow » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:33 pm

In the meantime I've been busy on the lathe:
A rolling pin that turned into a clutch alignment tool:
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See what I did there?

I'll get my coat......


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Post by roymck » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:38 pm

So was the wife out then was she , she will be looking for that . No pastry for you then !



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Post by Old and Slow » Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:52 pm

Progress being made: the clutch plate is now fitted, with the help of the vandalised rolling pin.
I've ordered a replacement clutch release bearing from gtese8, it is the same as currently fitted as it seems a flat-faced bearing with an acceptable bore size doesn't exist.
Once I have the bearing everything should be ready to put the engine back in - fingers crossed it is straightforward. I'll take a picture of it to show.


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Post by Old and Slow » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:30 pm

Back on track this week.
I fitted the clutch release beariing from QRG at the week-end. Here it is:
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Looks lovely to me!!
I re-fitted the engine, not too difficult aligning the gearbox (seemed a bit too easy, in fact!) Thanks again to Chris for the loan of the crane.
I screwed in a couple of longer studs into the block to align the bell-housing and everything slid together nicely. Then, just a matter of fitting the bolts all round the top.
Today I bolted up the engine mounts., I had to move the oil take-off pipe to avoid fouling the chassis rail. which is why (I think) an extension was originally fitted to the drivers side mount. I'll see if there are any points where the engine touches the chassis, but from where I'm standing everything looks clear.
Next I need to re-bolt up the gearbox mount and then fit all the ancillaries. I still haven't sourced exhaust gaskets, and the metal-clad material is a bit heavy-gauge, but I'll try to make some up later.


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Post by chrisgallacher » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:04 pm

Glad you got it back in and mated with the gearbox with no problems Philip. From your description of getting them apart in the first place I feared it might be a royal PITA.

The rolling pin clearly worked a treat!


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Post by mn757 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:44 pm

I'm about to put my gearbox back in. What size / thread studding did you use to help align gearbox ? Thanks. Martin


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Post by guybetts » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:25 pm

Old and Slow wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:30 pm
The clutch is now 7/8 inch thick, face to face, in case anyone wonders how worn their clutch is.
Just measured up my old clutch plate before contacting Nigel at QRG in response to his appeal on FB, and it's barely a 1/4 inch :shock:

Glad to see everything's going back together nicely Philip :D

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Post by philhoward » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:27 pm

7/8”’is pretty thick - sure it isn’t 7/16”?


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Post by Old and Slow » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:59 am

Now you ask me!!!! :)
Sorry, but having bolted up the bell-housing, re-measuring the thickness of the clutch plate isn't on the current rebuild schedule!
It does sound a bit thick (like me?) I might have mis-read the vernier, it often happens! :?
I called Iain Daniels to ask about sourcing exhaust gaskets (Chesman couldn't help) but he says he now only uses RTV with the Mays head, so I'll probably re-use the old gaskets but coat them with RTV first.


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Post by Old and Slow » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:13 pm

Re-build is making good progress this week-end. :)
Clutch reconnected; Dynamo & starter re-fitted, radiator and all hoses put back in, exhaust manifold re-connected, triple webers back in place, but not yet fully tightened - a job for tomorrow.
Then it needs new fluids, and fingers crossed it won't leak oil any more.
No photos' I'm afraid. And, having just seen Josh's piccies, I'm too embarrassed .


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Post by Old and Slow » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:26 pm

mn757 wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:44 pm
What size / thread studding did you use to help align gearbox ?
I think it is 5/16 UNC thread in the block, I threw the studs back in the box of bits after I'd finished, they all look alike now!!
Sorry,


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