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Post by mn757 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:44 pm

I'm about to put my gearbox back in. What size / thread studding did you use to help align gearbox ? Thanks. Martin


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Post by guybetts » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:25 pm

Old and Slow wrote:
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The clutch is now 7/8 inch thick, face to face, in case anyone wonders how worn their clutch is.
Just measured up my old clutch plate before contacting Nigel at QRG in response to his appeal on FB, and it's barely a 1/4 inch :shock:

Glad to see everything's going back together nicely Philip :D

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Post by philhoward » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:27 pm

7/8”’is pretty thick - sure it isn’t 7/16”?


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Post by Old and Slow » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:59 am

Now you ask me!!!! :)
Sorry, but having bolted up the bell-housing, re-measuring the thickness of the clutch plate isn't on the current rebuild schedule!
It does sound a bit thick (like me?) I might have mis-read the vernier, it often happens! :?
I called Iain Daniels to ask about sourcing exhaust gaskets (Chesman couldn't help) but he says he now only uses RTV with the Mays head, so I'll probably re-use the old gaskets but coat them with RTV first.


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Post by Old and Slow » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:13 pm

Re-build is making good progress this week-end. :)
Clutch reconnected; Dynamo & starter re-fitted, radiator and all hoses put back in, exhaust manifold re-connected, triple webers back in place, but not yet fully tightened - a job for tomorrow.
Then it needs new fluids, and fingers crossed it won't leak oil any more.
No photos' I'm afraid. And, having just seen Josh's piccies, I'm too embarrassed .


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Post by Old and Slow » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:26 pm

mn757 wrote:
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What size / thread studding did you use to help align gearbox ?
I think it is 5/16 UNC thread in the block, I threw the studs back in the box of bits after I'd finished, they all look alike now!!
Sorry,


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Post by Old and Slow » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:30 pm

Feeling happy - started OK, can't see any oil underneath, so I appear to have fixed the original problem. Clutch needed adjustment after the relined plate and flat release bearing, it feels OK, next step - test run to the White Lion on Sunday!
Just need to tidy the garage and get the hoist and stand back to Chris.


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Post by Old and Slow » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:41 pm

A good run to the White Lion at Hartford Bridge on the A30. Seems I've swapped an oil leak for a water leak!! :(
The leak was from the top hose at the water pump end, it looks like the top hose is a bit over-stressed under the jubilee clip, so I'll cut it back a little and re-fit it.
The get-together was heaving - I arrived around 8.30 and they were already parking in the top field; 3 reasons - it was the first local outing this year, the new organiser lets modern cars (classic or not) in, and the weather is warm and dry.
Here's the top hose, if cutting a bit off doesn't cure the leak (with a bit of RTV to help) then if anyone recognises it and knows a source of a replacement, I'd be pleased to hear.
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Post by chrisgallacher » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:54 pm

Morning Philip, pleased to hear things are running relatively smoothly and congrats on being oil-tight if not water-tight!

I replaced my top hose with a generic silicone 90 degree bend of the right diameters in classic matt black and it's been fine for several years. The bend is a bit more (well, less in fact) than 90 degrees but in practice I found that didn't matter as there was plenty of compliance in the hose to accommodate this. Don't know where I got it from - probably a reputable seller on ebay - although I will have the receipt somewhere in my files if you want:
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I bet Hartford Bridge was heaving this morning and I did think about going, but hedge-trimming had a higher priority. And the guy on the gate was so rude to me last time when I was leaving it put me off a bit tbh. Is he always like that?


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Post by philhoward » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:06 pm

I was about to say that looks like a candidate for a generic silicone elbow? Plenty to choose from on eBay but check the leg lengths as they can vary between sellers.


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Post by Old and Slow » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:40 pm

I'm letting the RTV set for 24 hours before adding water, then we'll see....fingers crossed.
It's actually the hose into the water pump, the elbow in my picture connects to an alloy tube running vertically down to another elbow into the bottom of the rad. There's quite a bit of flexibility so I'm sure it would accommodate less/greater than 90 deg bends.
Wasn't there something on the forum about longevity (or lack of it) with silicone hoses?
Chris, I recognise the comments re: staff on the gate, the new owners aren't enthusiasts, and they expect a charity contribution as you leave - and can be quite stroppy if you ignore them...I don't think he believes me when I say It's difficult to get my hand in my pocket. 8)
Also, I must arrange to get your bits back to you, but this coming week is extremely busy, I'll pm/email you early March.


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Post by roymck » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:51 pm

Wasn’t it Kevlar hoses that are not that long lasting ?



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Post by scimjim » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:54 pm

Yep, silicone are fit and forget, Kevlar are like playing Russian roulette :D


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Post by philhoward » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:55 pm

roymck wrote:
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Wasn’t it Kevlar hoses that are not that long lasting ?
Yep - about 12 months if you’re lucky.

Silicone hoses - I’ve got some which are approaching 20 years old although they haven’t been used for all of those 20 years. Longevity appears to be on a par with what you’d expect of a rubber hose.


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Post by chrisgallacher » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:12 pm

I'd echo that Philip - the silicone hoses I've bought haven't been expensive and have lasted brilliantly. Just don't get red or blue ones though, not on a Sabre Six :D :w

No hurry for the kit - let's catch up in a while. Pleased that it was of some help!


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