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Post by DARK STAR » Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:27 pm

Yearse.
Actually there is something that looks like a Peugeot when you search Jaguar XF, but nothing that looks like ... er THAT :shock:


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Post by ScimmyMike » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:12 pm

Coupe Racing wrote:
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Not strictly a shooting brake - but different none the less ! :shock:
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Post by scimjim » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:03 pm

1951 Invicta Black Prince Shooting Brake, by Associated Coachbuilders Inc. It had a 3.0L 6cyl DOHC engine of 127 bhp.
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Post by Elizabeth's dad » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:39 pm

Belonged to a friend of mine's father at one time. He fitted it with a 1725cc Rootes Holbay engine and Jaguar suspension.


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Post by Roger Pennington » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:46 am

Interesting, Jim, and according to DVLA it's still 1725cc (and untaxed) so presumably they've still not found the correct engine?


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Post by scimjim » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:22 am

I just had a google to see what engines Invicta used in this (Meadows) and learnt several interesting facts such as Meadows made the Meteor engine (non supercharged version of the Merlin used in tanks). I knew Rover made them as Rolls-Royce ran out of capacity but never knew Meadows made them too.


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Post by scimjim » Sun May 26, 2019 10:11 pm

From Facebook: 1966 Brasinca Uirapuru RR-1 'Gaviao'. 4,3 l, 155 hp - Built for the second all-Brazilian TV series 'Águias de Fogo' (Eagles of Fire.) It was yellow with black on the side and hood scoop. (It was a one-off sportwagon version of the Brasinca Uirapuru, which was a GT-class sport coupe, with only 77 built between 1964-66.)
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Post by TrevorG » Mon May 27, 2019 12:53 am

Apologies for joining this discussion late and possibly throwing a spanner in the works, but I've always mused on what actually is a shooting brake and what is an estate car?

My land rover shooting brake has a line of hooks on the gutter line, why do you think they are there? My volvo estate has roof bars, a tailgate and fold down seats, perfect for carrying stuff around and to my estate. My scimitar has fold down seats and a rear window hatch, an occasional sporting carrier perhaps.

The useage of the terms shooting brake, estate car, off roader (I can't begin to count the number of pseudo 4wds I've seen stuck in dry, flat off road areas due to silly tyre choice, no ground clearance and school run suspension) seem to have lost their original connotation.

Mind you, a lot of these cars do look good, even if as useful a shooting brake as a mini countryman!



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Post by scimjim » Mon May 27, 2019 8:38 am

Shooting brake, GT, GTE are all misused these days - perhaps I should have titled the thread “sporting estates” as per the term used in the first post.


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Post by TrevorG » Mon May 27, 2019 10:05 am

Jim, I think the term is there for discussion, which is good! I'm always amused that posh car companies use the term for their sporty estate cars, probably trying to appeal to the horsey set (I can say that with conviction having been a horse breeder and heavy horse trainer for thirty odd years - there is no snobbery like that of the horsey set!).

Interesting to note how the modern usage of the term shooting brake has become to mean a two door, hinged rear hatch version of a company's sporty car. Indeed, even wickedpedia uses a scimitar photo to demonstrate this.....so you needn't change the title.



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Post by TrevorG » Mon May 27, 2019 10:09 am

Forgot to say.....it's a bit like the term Vintage....we all use it for our older vehicles, but really it's....Vin tage.



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Post by scimjim » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:52 am

Just seen this on Facebook. 1964 Lotus Eleven GT. Chassis 512 left Lotus factory in 1960 as standard open-bodied Lotus Eleven. By 1964 it had been modified with a closed ' Breadvan ' body to emulate the Ferrari 250 GT 'Breadvan’
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Post by roymck » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:15 am

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Post by scimjim » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:03 am

Talking about Chris Humberstone on the popup headlights thread led me to this creation on the XJ - similar lines to the Lynx eventer XJS?
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