SS1 1800 CVH Project Alternator & Coil wiring

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Post by philhoward » Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:05 pm

Threaded stud? The oil pressure switch?


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Post by choughton » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:41 pm

So from your pictures I would usually suspect that this is an 1800 block with a centre exit dipstick (I had always assumed that they existed because of casting marks but never actually seen one in the flesh). The 1800 block has a strengthening fin which runs the full length of the block on the intake side. Id always assumed that it was to alleviate the head gasket problem seen on so many 1600 cvh engines due to block deformation but I have nothing more than theory on that front.

The strengthening fin can be seen in the top left corner of your second picture (hopefully not a trick of the light).

However your engine appears to have a front bowl sump. The European tall block cvh has a rear bowl sump. So I suspect that your engine is actually an american 1900 cvh.



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Post by choughton » Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:49 pm

After doing a bit more digging I've found that there is an older 1.8 cvh with the dipstick like you have. I have not seen that engine before but the block looks exactly the same.
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If this is the case then you have a 1.6 head on a 1.8 block an your cam timing will be out by a few degrees. You also probably need to know which type of head you have.
Lean burn is the one you need in order to keep the compression ratio in the sweet spot (you can tell by the heart shaped chambers)
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The 1.8 head actually has smaller diameter valves so the cutouts have to be made larger . I did originally fit the head without making the cutouts bigger and it ran fine but there were slight marks on the pistons when I checked it over last year so I machined the pistons before refitting the head.



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Post by Peter S » Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:27 am

Hi Thanks for the info. I was hopping to just get the engine running as it's obviously been rebuilt (new gaskets, water pump,cam tensioner, fuel pump, clutch etc) but without all the receipts I think I will have to lift the head to find out exactly what I've got.
Note when I say new I mean unused as the receipts date from 2005-9 :!: Also I bet the clutch plate is stuck.

On other news striped the back brakes all wheel cylinders completely corroded solid, handbrake lever on one shoe seized self adjusting mechanism seized on other side but the"new" handbrake cable OK.


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Post by reliant-reviver » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:11 pm

Regarding the sump, 1800 CVH were rear bowl only. It is likely that it has a standard FWD CVH sump and either the block or sump have been redrilled to suit.


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Post by philhoward » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:53 pm

I think it needs some internal “relief” to miss the crank throw as well?


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Post by Peter S » Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:01 pm

I've taken the carb off its a 32-34 DFT 4 B to read the casting No on Head it's 88 SM so later hdmi head not lean burn(that 86SM).
The photo below shows the cam pointer not lined up with a punch mark on the head when the crank pulley mark is on TBC (0) on the cover case. Is this the one tooth out :?: If so (without thinking about it) why can't you move it one tooth to line up. On a rough measurement it's about 7 degrees out & one tooth is about 9. Or is this where you need a vernier pully or off set key as needs to be spot on :?:
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I'll check the sump for lumps and bumps next time :!:
Not turned over the engine completely yet will try that as well to listen for any knocks


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Post by philhoward » Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:13 pm

I have a vernier pulley I’m not going to be using any time soon..


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Post by Peter S » Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:51 pm

Yes please on the vernier pulley PM sent


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Post by choughton » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:22 pm

Managed to get a few more pictures of this 1.8 off of the internet.
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As far as I can tell your head is a hemi head so you may need to sort that.

Edit:
The vernier pulley was because mine has a piper 285 camshaft and the compression is slightly different from standard so I wanted to dial the cam in . I did run the engine one tooth out for a short while but it didn't run correctly.

Im not sure about the 1.4 cvh but this may do the trick

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Post by philhoward » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:30 pm

If you need any better pictures of a 1.8, mines only in my lockup and devoid of virtually all the furniture. I can also check which head casting it is (being an EFI hemi head)?


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Post by choughton » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:33 pm

This is the head casting number on my hemi head
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Post by Peter S » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:44 pm

Mine the same,
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Post by choughton » Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:15 pm

As far as I remember there is some crossover on the head numbers with lean burn / hemi heads. Your head looks like an original ss1 head because of the bleed screw on the exhaust side of the head and I believe that SS1s had a hemi head???? I could be wrong as Ive never actually had a standard ss1.



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Post by philhoward » Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:56 am

Later 1600’s had the lean burn head (plus all 1400’s, of course)


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