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Post by IanC » Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:54 pm

Oldconn wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:38 pm
It looks remarkably like the crankshaft nose seal for the Mini I have just rebuilt!
I was probably being too blinkered in thinking it was possibly a Scimitar part - of course it could be off pretty much anything!


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Post by GavinR » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:43 pm

It looks like part of a sump gasket to go between the bearing caps and the sump.
Never rebuilt an Essex, but a Pinto has 2 of these in a sump gasket kit


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Post by Coupe Racing » Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:27 pm

GavinR wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:43 pm
It looks like part of a sump gasket to go between the bearing caps and the sump.
Never rebuilt an Essex, but a Pinto has 2 of these in a sump gasket kit
Essex gasket is flat


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Post by IanC » Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:27 pm

GavinR wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:43 pm
It looks like part of a sump gasket to go between the bearing caps and the sump.
Never rebuilt an Essex, but a Pinto has 2 of these in a sump gasket kit
Well I've never rebuilt a Cologne but I can see from a diagram that there's cutouts in the sump at each end for the crank and these need a curved seal, so maybe that's the same system in a Pinto? The Essex sump is completely flat all round so no curved gaskets are needed.
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Update! I've just seen Coupe's comment, beat me to it...


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Post by gtcse8 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:17 pm

2.8 Cologne Sump seal.
Essex sump gaskets are a Four piece Cork or Rubber impregnated cork seal.
I have had another root today but can`t find the New quill drive Ian, sorry.
Spring clip in the post tomorrow.
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Post by IanC » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:54 pm

Many thanks, Ian


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Post by IanC » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:59 pm

Beginners Error! I fitted the sandwich plate, cam wheel and front cover today , everything went on fine, except one of the cover bolts wouldn't fit. The mistake I made was to assume that when the sandwich plate's retaining plate was fitted, all the bolt holes would naturally line up. Wrong! So the whole lot had to come off again including the cam wheel as it covers the retaining plate's bolts. I put the cover plate bolts in place to 'centre' all the holes before tightening the retaining plate bolts and everything was ok after that. I'll know next time, if there is one that is.
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Post by gtcse8 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:49 pm

Clip posted today Ian


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Post by IanC » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:58 pm

Autobox query - are the flex plate to torque converter bolts a special item? I ask as the ones in my kit of parts are 'modified' having been shaved down in the head (presumably to clear an engine back plate bolt) and shortened so's not to bottom out on the T/C body - a bit too short IMHO as the bolt can't currently reach to the bottom of the threads on the T/C brackets. Having said that, the person who disassembled the bits had a struggle in getting the bolts off (photo)!
I can make some 17mm headed bolts fit, but if there's a ready made item I'd prefer to use that.
If it's relevant, while the box is an A4LD, the T/C is a standard C3 one.
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Post by gtcse8 » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:37 pm

The ones I have taken out are special, they have a hollow stamped head with a raised groove round the outside.
Don`t suppose it matters what they are as long, sic, as they fit and are 8.8t or above.
And don`t forget to use threadloc on them, you don`t want a horrible rattling noise in a few months time.


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Post by IanC » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:58 pm

Thanks for that Mark - and I'll definitely be using the threadloc!


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Post by IanC » Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:59 pm

A practical question this time. It's nearing the time for the engine to go in, but I'm unsure where the best place is to attach the engine leveller. The likely place looks like via the head bolts (heads off), but I don't fancy manhandling the heads on afterwards (although I've done that when I was a lot younger and fitter). But if the heads were on, what would be the attachment points)?


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Post by Nick » Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:26 pm

I would add the heads and inlet manifold first. The 4 carb attachment studs on the inlet manifold are ideal to lift on, being well balanced.


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Post by IanC » Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:55 pm

Hi, thanks for that. I can see the bit about balance, but is the alloy i/manifold beefy enough to take the weight of the engine?


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Post by philhoward » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:01 pm

More than strong enough.


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