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Post by Old and Slow » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:39 pm

Presumably Argyle Motors were one of the Reliant distributors who competed under their own name.
I've briefly searched the Motor Sport archive, there's mention of Raymond Baxter in the 1964 RAC Rally, but nothing comes up for Argyle, apart from references to the vintage car of that name. :(
In the words of U2 - still haven't found what I'm looking for.


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Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:59 am

Argyle Motors, as the name suggests, were in Birkenhead (!), and AFAIK were Reliant dealers "back in the day"


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Often misspelt - even by Bonhams here :D


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Post by scimjim » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:23 am

And here's NCM260 again - being pedalled sideways by Alan Minshaw at Loton in 64.
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Post by scimjim » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:27 am

Previously mentioned here and here :)


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Post by reliant-reviver » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:45 am

The trick is knowing where the photographers sit, so they can get a good shot of you through the screen.

Rather enjoying the pictures being posted on this thread. I'm developing a nostalgia I can't actually claim!


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Post by Old and Slow » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:55 am

C'mon R-R
You had a ride in 660XYB not so long ago, doesn't that qualify you?
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Post by Sabreite » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:14 pm

Old and Slow wrote:
Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:23 pm
Those Sabre 4 pictures are good. And can we assume the car was taxed for 12 months, expiring in 1964, so a 1963 modification?
As you say, what racing history can be established? I don't know where to look, but I'd guess the archivist side of Dave would know.
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I have found some information on Argyle Motors racing history, in a 1964 issue of Reliant Review it mentions the following "From the north comes news of the Argyle Sabre team, led by Graham Austin. They took part in events at Oulton Park and Aintree and also in the hill climb at Loton Park. Formed earlier this year, the team is sponsored by Argyle Motors of Birkenhead, following a suggestion by Sabre enthusiast Mr J M Entwhistle. His son, Dr Ian Entwhistle will probably drive some of the entries in future events,"
If I find any more info I will post on this thread but maybe someone else has more information? :D
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Post by Old and Slow » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:02 pm

Not really on-topic, but the thread heading seems appropriate, so here goes:
This week 660XYB MOT'd OK with a couple of advisories - oil leak and slight exhaust leak. Oil leaks come with the territory, but the exhaust is tired and rusty, so I'm considering a replacement aft of the tubular manifolds.
I can make up a system using Burton Power parts, using SS, even if it sounds a bit tinny. My questions are - any comments on Burtons Power stainless steel, good or bad?
Is there any point in painting the SS to improve the life, and if so, what to use?
I need to introduce about 1" deflection in an 18" length of pipe 1.75" dia, any suggestions on how to do this without kinking the pipe?
All feedback gratefully received.
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Post by swoakes » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:31 pm

I had a custom exhaust made by powerflow locally for the DET Sprint car; did a nice job. They have agents countrywide I think....


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Post by Old and Slow » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:15 pm

Hi Steve,
Thanks for the suggestion, and they have a depot within 10 miles of me; I think I need to let them see the current arrangement before I get a quote.


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Post by swoakes » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:56 pm

Old and Slow wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:15 pm
Hi Steve,
Thanks for the suggestion, and they have a depot within 10 miles of me; I think I need to let them see the current arrangement before I get a quote.
Yes I trailered the DET down to them so they could have a look and give me a quote.


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Post by Simon Drabble » Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:53 pm

Great thread and I am most definitely hoping that someone can find the holy grail of a photo of the manifold! Thanks for all the help and in the interim we shall continue on trying to develop the car. Next target is to lose 50kg...

We are out next weekend at Castle Combe in the 1 hour GTSCC race



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Post by Old and Slow » Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:04 pm

Hi Simon,
You can see from the thread how far we managed to get, the Liverpool-based (?) Argyle Motors photo is 1964, but I guess you need something from 1962 to have any chance of getting the regs changed.
Good luck at Castle Combe, unfortunately we have family over with us at the week-end so won't be able to spectate.
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Post by heathsabre » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:38 pm

Hi Philip

Did you resolve this issue? I now have a leaking pinion oil seal on our “ new” Sabre. I’ll try QRG for the seal.


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