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Snetterton 6 April 2009

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:53 pm
by turbster
After testing here the other week and having a decent day I fancied my chances for a good finish as the car went really well and felt much better on the 195/60/14 tyres and 14"x7" wolfies and the other changes I'd done over the winter.

Then the final instructions came through and I saw there were 45 entrants for the race with a lot of V8's and E-types wihich I knew would cause me loads of trouble on the long straights at Snett...

OK, lets be realistic, top 8 looks possible, but by no means easy... So that's the target then.

After sleeping in the van Saturday night, my toes were still numb come qualifying :roll: but the sun had come out and it looked like we were in for a good day :D

Danny and Ben left their collection of competition reliants at home and debuted their new Marcos GT, which looked very impressive as you'd expect....

With reserves there were 45 cars in qualifying... busy to say the least!!
I managed to get a few decent laps in and had a spin exiting Russel chicane, trying to get the power on that little bit earlier every lap... I found the limit :lol:

An E-type had an accident red flagging the session for 10 mins, on the restart I went back out and had a taste of what was to come as I was destroying the most of the bigger engined cars in the corners and they were just driving past me on the long Revett straight, then I'd try make it back on the brakes into the Esses...

The results were, a seriously fast TR5 on Pole, a Corvette (Luke Wos also races a Sabre 6, cars prepped by Iain Daniels) in second, followed by an E-type with a Ford Falcon in 4th, and 5th was some character with a big grin on his face driving an Orange GTE :shock: Danny and Ben used the session as a shakedown and ended up 26th. I was 2.5s off the pole time...

I lined up on the grid next to a well sorted FIA spec Marcos 1800gt, which was quicker in a straight line but I seemed to have the edge under breaking and in the bends, behind me was a Morgan V8 which I knew from last year was a very fast starter. OK, should be side by side with the Marcos and just need to block the Morgan....

The lights go out and my start wasn't great but I was along side the
Marcos holding the Morgan behind, what I didn't bank on was an E-type on a kamikaze mission down the pit exit lane :shock: not too clever imho, but as the end of the lane was coming and we were along side each other. I had nowhere to go to give him room so I'm faced with two options, an etype down my inside trying to scrub off 100mph on grass or back off and let him in front.....that hurt and lost me a few places :evil:

8th as we hit the Revett straight and the front group pulled away, I caught the back pretty quickly through the bends and then started a good battle between me, the Marcos and the Morgan for 6th, it went on for a fair few laps with me faster than both of them through the long right hand Coram curve down to the Russel chicane, I just couldn't get through as they were battling too. A couple more laps of jostling and the Marcos got on the inside of the Morgan only for him to slam the door...this was my chance I jinked to the outside and went around them both on the kerb, yes that was fun, just a matter of way too much speed and breaking while coming in from the left to get the line for the chicane...after the rear trying to come round a few times I got it slowed down and I'd got a big enough gap to hold them off down the straight, 6th which became 5th as the Falcon spun off.

I pitted and it went ok, not very quick, but no mistakes and I came out where I'd gone in, the Falcon flew past on the straight after recovering from his spin and the Marcos had had a driver change, with the second driver much better on the brakes I struggled to make up the 3-4 car lenths he made on the straight and I had no answer when he went past on the straight. Another E-type was catching me on the sraight every lap and after a short battle he got past and went after the Marcos. I slowed a bit as I think the tyres were a bit warm, only by a second a lap but this meant the Marcos and E-type were pulling away by that amount :roll:

The tyres seemed to be coming back so I decided to get my head down and get some fast laps in as I had very little traffic... I got to within a second and a half of the Marcos which was now behind the E-type and the race finish a few laps early for me as I was flying....

So, I was seventh out of 37, and I beat the E-type I mentioned at the start :wink: The TR5 won, with Lukes Corvette in second with a couple of E-types, another Corvette and the Marcos completing the top 6.

Danny and Ben were happy that their car had finished and shown some good pace with their spare engine in, they were 17th

Anglesey next in 2 weeks and no long straights....yes :D


Results and timing if anyone's interested:

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:02 pm
Good write up Paul 8) well done fella :D

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:47 pm
by DavePoole
Thanks to Paul for the tickets, my friend Barry and I had a superb day at Snetterton yesterday. The weather was great and the variety of cars that were racing was fantastic.

Watching Paul in action in his well sorted GTE was brilliant!! I was certainly suprised by it's pace and how well Paul drove the car. I really enjoyed watching the tussle between Pauls Scimitar with the Marcus and Morgan. It was a 40 minute race with loads of action 8)

Here's a few pictures of Paul in action:


Rather than use his interior mirror to see what was behind him, he opted for a a nice little spin on the grass to see what was coming :lol: :lol:


Here's a few video clips:

Well done Paul !!!


Dave Poole :D

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:19 pm
mega pics and vids as always Sir!

car looks to sit mcuh better with better roll control than before, nice 'yank tank' avaoidance in one of the vids too :shock:

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:52 pm
by turbster
Yeah good work dave...

Clip 2 is my favourite, that was for position and the car just looks quick, just ignore the missed 3rd gear on the exit :oops:

Car's much better Craig, ride height's down 1 1/2" at the front and 1" at the rear, coupled with the 195/60/14's, cage to chassis bracing, increased spring rates and balance bar pedal box... All seems to have improved things with much better turn in, stability under braking and overall balance... result :D

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:14 pm
better pull ya finger out with the SS1 now then eh? :wink:

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:32 pm
by turbster
It's at the top of the to do list now the GTE's sorted...promise :wink:

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:11 pm
by BigBobPilot
I was sharing a drive with Iain Daniels (Danny) in a 3 litre Marcos, as he was driving the first stint, I was watching the race from the pit wall for most of the first half of the race. I have to say Paul was doing really well. He was running very close to the Marcos 1800 and the Morgan lap after lap and pushing hard. His 7th place finish was hard won and deserved. The car was looking great too. As he said, I left my Scimitar at home for using another V6 engined plastic car...

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:48 pm
by shrewsbury_streetracer
Nice one Paul! Cars looking v good.

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:37 pm
by Raz987
Congrats Paul, cracking result!
Did you race at Snett last year and do you have any comparitive lap times? Did you finish in front of many of the guys who beat you last year?
Raz :D

P.S. Great photos Dave, what camera are you using these days?

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:17 pm
by turbster
Cheers Raz, Chris,

Haven't got much to compare with I'm afraid, did it last year in Dannys Sabre and did a 1:31, my qualifying time was 1:24.0 (pole 1:21.6), fastest race lap was 1:24.1... I did a 1:23.3 in testing the other week when the tyres were brand new and there was no traffic.. Can't really compare with others as the straights hurt me too much, despite touching nearly 135mph on the Revett strait I was giving up 5-6 car lengths to the V8's, maybe 4-5 to the E-types, and the 1800 Marcos was around 3, so doing faster or similar times to those cars would suggest I'd be a fair bit quicker on the other circuits we visit without the massively long straits!!??

I genuinely thought there was nothing faster than me around the corners, even when following the winning TR5, which is mega quick, I stayed with him through the bomb hole and closed in coram curve, but again his speed on the straight left me behind somewhat :roll:

So it's a issue with straight line speed, through lack of power and maybe aerodynamic drag, when I followed Ben in practice, we were pretty much the same down the Revett, he's got 200hp, mine's around 230hp, so that would back that theory up as the Marcos is a nice slippery shape. Other thoughts are the gearing, which is better, but still long legged as I'm touching 7k in 4th doing 134, no need for 5th!!

Any thoughts guys??

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:34 pm
gearing would help Paul, shorter diff ratio. Geared for 140mph max on the limiter in 5th. I suspect its only the broad power delivery of the essex that masking the real problem with the gearing. If it was a four pot i think the gearing would show up big time.
gotta be some different diff ratios? whats in there now? and the choices?

gotta get the old girl on pole this year eh? :wink:

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:21 pm
by turbster
I'll be trying at Anglesey...

3:54 at the moment and standard Cossy ratios, think there's a big jump to next ratio, I'll have to find out..

Ben was well into 5th with a 3:75 and same box :?

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:50 pm
by BigBobPilot
I was chatting with Paul about diff ratios. We've got a 3.75 diff in the Marcos, but also smaller diameter tyres (by about 13mm on the diameter). I was pulling 5000rpm in 5th going the same speed as Paul. This effectively gives me a closer ratio gears (despite it actually being the same gearbox) and therefore it should give better in-gear acceleration. Unfortunately with the Sailsbury diff, I think the next ratio from the 3.54 is something like 4:1 which I believe was fitted to a Thwaites dumper truck! Iv'e got some paperwork at home on the Jag diffs, I'll have a look at those. However Paul, Danny would be able to spaek to his LSD man about ratios for you...

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:51 pm
by Raz987
orange5 wrote:Any thoughts guys??
Not really :?
You failed to mention you were 2nd in Class D. I take it your not happy with that and want an overall win? :twisted:
You can't change the bodywork, so what about under-car aerodynamics? Flat floor etc?
You shouldn't have the same problem anywhere else anyway, until Snett again in October!