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Bogging at 4000 rpm

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:57 pm
by DARK STAR
Unfortunately I rarely extend the car nowadays but I couldn't resist putting a modern GTI boy racer in his place the other day.
Luckily it was in town so when the engine bogged at 4000 rpm I was far enough ahead and he was't going to go any faster ;-)
I think (hope) this problem is due to the appalling state of the air filter, which is after all 25 years old :oops:
So, after extensive research on K&N's site I thought I'd fit one of these (56-1360).
It is for twin Weber 45/48 DCOE's so should flow enough air ???
Difficult to calculate the volume because the inlets on the injection are square, as is Ford's wont and everybody else's are round :roll:
I need to get it right first time because the thing costs a fortune ...

Re: Bogging at 4000 rpm

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:23 pm
by efi_sprintgte
Is it for your 2.9?

Re: Bogging at 4000 rpm

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:06 pm
by DARK STAR
Yes, sorry, should have said ...

Re: Bogging at 4000 rpm

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:17 pm
by DARK STAR
Nobody in a position to comment?
Please!

Re: Bogging at 4000 rpm

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:21 pm
by scimjim
Not without a pic of your AFMs and spec of filter. Are the AFMs mounted at the wing, which way round and how far apart? If the filter will physically fit I reckon it should flow enough (guess from pic only).

Re: Bogging at 4000 rpm

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:29 pm
by DARK STAR
Meters are mounted on their sides, not sure how far apart but I can modify the filter housing.
It WILL fit 8)
Thanks Jim

Re: Bogging at 4000 rpm

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:32 pm
by efi_sprintgte
My 2.9 had pipercross air filters with the square flange and bolted straight on.

Re: Bogging at 4000 rpm

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:08 pm
by DARK STAR
Filters plural?
My airflow meters are mounted too close together ...
The present foam filter is Pipercross but all hacked about for the square inlets, I want something more elegant 8)

Re: Bogging at 4000 rpm

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:23 pm
by scimjim
Mine was appalling and I cleaned it but never got round to replacing it :oops:

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Re: Bogging at 4000 rpm

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:02 pm
by efi_sprintgte
DARK STAR wrote:Filters plural?
My airflow meters are mounted too close together ...
The present foam filter is Pipercross but all hacked about for the square inlets, I want something more elegant 8)

Yes, it was a kit for a XR4x4i. One nice neat filter per AFM.

Ran 200bhp with that set up fine (the restriction was the AFM themselves)

Re: Bogging at 4000 rpm

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:05 am
by DARK STAR
Yours is neat Jim, is it an Edelbrock?
Do you remember the model?

Re: Bogging at 4000 rpm

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:30 am
by scimjim
I don't Chris - but it wasn't Edelbrock, perhaps an old pipercross?

Re: Bogging at 4000 rpm

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:14 pm
by DARK STAR
A partial result, now it is just a bit hesitant at 4 000 rpm.
It is much prettier though 8)

Next up, I think the spark plugs, which are not as old as the filter but may be a bit tired.
I have a set in stock for some reason (perhaps I was already going to change them years ago ...)

Here's one I prepared earlier -

Re: Bogging at 4000 rpm

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:15 pm
by DARK STAR
part 2

Note the genuine Daimler SP250 bonnet stay

Bogging at 4000 rpm

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:40 pm
by DARK STAR
New Bosch plugs fitted.
The engine is now more supple at low revs - and doesn't want to go over 3500 rpm :roll:
Before it accelerated ok up to 4000 then it was as if there was a rev limiter cutting it.
Now it is reluctant to accelerate hard and won't go over 3500 unless I go gently.
Effectively it is the opposite to Vert Soleil which runs ok at high revs but won't idle :|
I am getting tired ...