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Post by Will Anderson » Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:19 pm

On our recent outing to Seaburn for the NE Scimitar show I lost main beam on MB14 on the first day of our break. It was working when we left home and as it was not essential in mid summer (whatever that is!) so I waited until I came home to check it out.

It was a realtivley easy fix. The MB has a small fuse box on the inner nearside of the engine compartment that looks identical to the early SE5 fuse boxes or the one used in the economy reliants. Mine has, over the years before my ownership, lost the cover and a quick inspection showed this - :shock:

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Four new fuses and some electrical contact cleaner and normal service resumed! :D Off to ask my father if he has an old fuse box cover from one of the Robins we have broken.
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Re: Let there be Lights

Post by scimjim » Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:25 pm

Not SE5 - they're fitted to the front bulkhead of the 6b (funnily enough) for the main beams and only two of them actually do anything.


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Post by Will Anderson » Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:44 pm

:) So what are the other two for?
Edit, just checked and 1 & 4 are 25amp for main beam outer and inner and 2 & 3 are 10 amp for dip beam RHS and LHS.


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Post by philhoward » Sun Jul 31, 2016 6:26 pm

The oddball connections of the 6b/MB fusebox make then not exactly the same as Mini ones I think?


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Re: Let there be Lights

Post by Will Anderson » Sun Jul 31, 2016 8:55 pm

Actually, to be fair, it looks more like this Series 3 Land Rover Fuse Box


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Post by scimjim » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:37 pm

Will Anderson wrote::) So what are the other two for?
Edit, just checked and 1 & 4 are 25amp for main beam outer and inner and 2 & 3 are 10 amp for dip beam RHS and LHS.
Pretty sure that only two are used on the 6b/GTC.


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Re: Let there be Lights

Post by Will Anderson » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:04 pm

Ah well, that's another two of the 450 modifications found then! ;-)


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Post by scimjim » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:12 pm

Have you unscrewed the fuse box and checked the wiring behind it?


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Post by peter freeman » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:16 pm

All four were used on my GTC Jim - I added relays to them anyway after fitting a new fuse box. Used the same ( Lucas ) boxes in the Coupe after the blade type caused nothing but trouble - perhaps I was unlucky but I ended up with a handful of melted and just faulty blade fuses - no problems at all with the original glass ones but I have connected to both sides of the fuse holders which is better than Reliant managed.



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Re: Let there be Lights

Post by Will Anderson » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:18 pm

scimjim wrote:Have you unscrewed the fuse box and checked the wiring behind it?
Nope, but I suspect it would do no harm to do that and clean the connections there too.


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Post by Will Anderson » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:26 pm

Sorry to resurrect this but as the link above has gone then for reference the fuse box is the same as used in the Landrover Series III and Lightweight - 1971/85, a Lucas item 6FJ 37531 with a link between terminals 3 & 5. I replaced mine and have had no more issues.

However, I recently noticed some rusting on the inner lamp rings (having had the outers replaced earlier this year). No problem, thought I, I will take them out and clean them up. Nope - new rings required as the originals had started to disintigrate. I will probably need new lamps in a few years too as the reflectors are starting to go. Interestingly they are both dated 1992 so have been replaced before.
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Post by peter freeman » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:59 am

Trouble is no-one makes SS ones except for mini IIRC



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Post by drcdb15 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:24 pm

peter freeman wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:59 am
Trouble is no-one makes SS ones except for mini IIRC
Why would you need SS? You can't see the rims normally, just douse everything in Waxoyl. Helps if you get a sound rim to start with of course... :lol:


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Post by peter freeman » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:28 pm

Tried all sorts of stuff to cover them with and they Always rust after what is a short time - the plastic backs last almost forever



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Post by drcdb15 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:07 pm

Well if you will keep taking your car out and driving ridiculously high mileages... keep it in a dry garage like I do and you won't have these problems! :lol:

Seriously, Minispares do SS at £10.50, or chrome on brass at £17.88, or OEM chrome on steel at £28.10, so the 7 inch size seems a bit of a no-brainer.

https://www.minispares.com/product/clas ... 929MS.aspx

And AES do the 5 3/4 inch size in black plastic at £8.43: https://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/ ... ategory/80

A DIFFERENT AES also do the 7 inch rim, at £11.99 (https://www.autoelectricalspares.co.uk/ ... 3539-p.asp) - shipping costs extra for all of these.

If Waxoyl doesn't work for you, have you tried ACF-50? You may need to re-apply every year or two, but it is quick and easy and seems to work on oil rigs.


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