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Middlebridge wheels/Locking Nuts/Centre Caps

Post by DARK STAR » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:15 am

I am considering options for refurbishing my Middlebridge wheels.
They have smart custom-made alloy hub caps instead of the rubbish plastic originals but having removed them I prefer the look without.
Besides which they are very solid and add unsprung weight.

So, question one, are the wheel nuts standard, and are they available, preferably in stainless.
Two, do any standard centre caps fit (I think someone already answered that on my Vert Soleil thread but it's so long ...)
Three, has anyone any advice on stripping plastic coatings off alloy wheels :roll:

I thought of keeping the Middlebridges for spare and buying Revolutions, either 5-spoke or Minilite-style, but they now cost nearly £130 each,
I'll get a quote for refinishing the Middlebridges first :wink:

PS anyone want a set of alloy hub caps ?
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Re: Middlebridge wheels

Post by scimjim » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:19 am

Bill Brighton for stainless wheelnuts.


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Re: Middlebridge wheels

Post by b.c.flat hat » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:15 am

Hi Chris, yerse, standard nuts and twos up for Bill Brightons stainless and he'll stamp a Scimitar sword on the ends too if yer like, got Middlebridges on the Blue Cruiser Coupe, lovely.
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Re: Middlebridge wheels

Post by scimjim » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:18 am

Peter's (ex Bill Simms) GTC on Middlebridge alloys has wolfie centre caps IIRC - looked great IMHO.


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Re: Middlebridge wheels

Post by DARK STAR » Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:26 pm

Thanks chaps I'll look into all that.


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Re: Middlebridge wheels

Post by Roger Pennington » Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:46 pm

Bill did, I think use genuine Middlebridge ones (the first cars did come with caps like that) which IIRC he ordered from performance wheels in OZ.

When I ran MB wheels, I used Wolfie ones. They do almost fit - just push them in as far as they go, scribe round the back, and cut off the few mm that protrude, and they look good.

There do seem to be two alternative finishes for the wheels - some (most????) seem to have a normal overall "silver painted alloy wheel" finish, some seem to have diamond-cut polished and lacquered front surfaces, so you need to consider what you've got. Either way, decent paint stripper should remove the old coating.

Here's mine, polished with wolfie caps:

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Re: Middlebridge wheels

Post by philhoward » Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:29 pm

I think there are 2 variations of MB wheel but those centres are available in many different sizes in about 3mm increments.


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Re: Middlebridge wheels

Post by DARK STAR » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:18 pm

Looks good Roger.
Available from whom, Phil?
This is how I did it last time, but there don't seem to be any wheel refinishing specialists in France -
and my tame local coachworks seems to have closed down when I wasn't looking :?
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Re: Middlebridge wheels

Post by DARK STAR » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:22 pm

Heh heh, just Googled Bill Brighton, found Bill Brighton Casting which sounded reasonable ... and it's a theatrical agency.
Anyone have a link please ...


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Re: Middlebridge wheels

Post by philhoward » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:04 pm

Search for Bill Brighton on here instead ;)

eBay for centre caps. I've bought a couple of sets from a seller of VW beetle bits of all people.


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Re: Middlebridge wheels

Post by DarrylWebb » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:16 pm

Roger Pennington wrote:

Here's mine, polished with wolfie caps:

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Very nice, Roger. I've not been a big fan of the MB wheels, but the black on yours gives them a depth.


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Re: Middlebridge wheels

Post by Will Anderson » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:56 pm

Chris, here are some other ideas on centre caps:-
These are the centres on MB No.1
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These are the early type Roger mentioned (here on No. 13
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Or for another option here is MB 12
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Re: Middlebridge wheels

Post by Roger Pennington » Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:57 pm

To add a couple of options (or maybe to add confusion :roll: ) these are Bill Sims', photograped when the car was in the marquee at Curborough a few years ago, which was when he told me that he got them from performance wheels:

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And these are Keith Painter's stunning-looking chrome-effect powder-coating ones (I vaguely remember him telling me that the centres were Dunlop composite ones, but I might be mistaken?) :

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Interesting that the wheels in Will's photo of MB No. 1 don't actually have the raised lips around the centre recess, to retain the "full cover" style caps.


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Re: Middlebridge wheels

Post by scimjim » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:02 pm

Keith's definitely look like Dunlop composite centres - but Bill's don't look anything like the original Performance centres :-)


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Re: Middlebridge wheels

Post by scimjim » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:07 pm

not sure if these are the same size but these sold on RR recently

plastic chrome effect centre caps £4 - a bit tarnished, 4cm tall 67mm bore size (68mm across the 'tangs')
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