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Post by Oaksey » Thu May 23, 2019 8:33 pm

Holy thread revival. After a lot of delays with paint issues, it's back and looking better than ever. I carried on building the engine up and got it in today
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Post by MikeyBikey » Thu May 23, 2019 8:43 pm

my lord thats look really good , youre work rate is truy impressive. out of curiousity. two pack or celluose ?


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Post by Oaksey » Thu May 23, 2019 8:54 pm

Good question, I'm pretty sure it's 2k. The painter wanted to clear coat it as that's what he normally does but I said no as that's not how it came from the factory


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Post by turbster » Thu May 23, 2019 8:59 pm

Stunning Josh, love this colour on an XJ6 as a neighbour had one when I was a kid.. Dad had a Highland Purple 5a and I had many an argument with his son who’s was best :lol:


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Post by Oaksey » Fri May 24, 2019 12:25 am

Being an owner of both, I wouldn't feel comfortable saying my thoughts on a Scimitar forum :lol:


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Post by Oaksey » Fri May 24, 2019 8:42 pm

Interior is about finished. I've put in a new headlining and trimmed the side rails but everything else is as it left the factory. I'm going to have the leather treated and I've got a pair of headrests to fit as the original invoice shows it was fitted with them from the factory
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Post by td99 » Fri May 24, 2019 9:44 pm

That's just beautiful Josh, enjoy it when it runs!


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Post by Smiler » Sat May 25, 2019 12:01 am

oooooh, very very nice!


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Post by Oaksey » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:32 pm

Cheers :)

So, lots more delays due to niggles. One being the alternator. When I bought the car, it had a generic 55A eBay special on it and the original came in the boot as I was told the bearing was grumbling. When I went to rebuild it, I found that the issue was the front bearing had seized and then spun inside the (aluminium) front housing and damaged it. I don't have the equipment to build up the material and machine it perfectly again so I gutted the alternator and an E-type one I had spare and made a good one from the two. Unfortunately the E one has a different mounting system so I had to machine some of the front cover to get the pulleys lined up nicely and wait for a special bolt that would fix it to the mounting bracket. Once that was done it went on and works lovely :)

Another was the new throttle cable. I bought one as the original inner had become a bit kinked over the years but it's not the same
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Far too long to route correctly and the fork at the engine end was too wide for the original clevis and looked messy. So I set to work on the old one and gently heated the inner cable whilst pulling it to straighten it out. After that, it got cleaned, lubricated and fitted :)

The fuel lines were finished off, the HT leads fitted (I've had a special set made bespoke that'll be fitted once there's less chance of them getting dirty) and turned the key. It started surprisingly easy but highlighted a leak from the oil filter housing. I took it off and couldn't see anything that would cause a high pressure leak so can only assume the housing wasn't properly seated in the groove. Put it all back together and it's stopped. There was also a fuel leak from the front carb's fuel feed pipe (the one between float chamber and carb body) which turned out to be the rubber o ring which I must have damaged whilst assembling. I nicked one from the NOS carb I had spare and it's all good there now too.

I then set about the clutch so I can get the car moving. I got the hydraulics bled but the pushrod seemed to be ill adjusted with the new slave cylinder so I took it off, cleaned up the pushrod and clevis and pressed out the old clevis bearing then fitted and reamed a new one. Put it all back together and it seems better now but it needs a little bit more adjustment to full disengage the clutch. That'll be tomorrow's job so then I can hopefully get it out and sort the carbs and the ignition timing out then run it up to temperature. Then maybe off to the rolling road to run the engine in.

On the body front, it's nearly done. The aluminium guttering is all back on and the front end is now finished too
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So really the only jobs left are get the engine running properly, top up the PAS fluid, bleed the brakes and finish removing the old underseal and putting fresh on underneath the car. Then off for an MOT and see what insane amount of money insurance companies want to charge me to drive it.


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Post by MikeyBikey » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:40 am

It’s lovely. Well done, fantastic


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Post by Oaksey » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:13 pm

Cheers Mike.

After putting the engine in and getting it running, I had an issue with the clutch in that it wouldn't disengage. It already had a refurbished clutch unit, a new slave cylinder and Flexi hose so I did the last bit and did the master cylinder but it made no difference. The hydraulics were seen to be working okay and the pushrod was out of adjustment so the next suggestions included was the release bearing fitted before the box got bolted up and was the friction plate fitted the correct way round. I knew both of them were okay but I'd run out of ideas so the only option was to separate the gearbox from the engine. Unfortunately, this is what the Jaguar workshop manual says
In order to remove the gearbox, it is necessary to remove the engine and gearbox as a unit as detailed on Page A36.
I wasn't in the mood for taking the engine back out so I decided to have a go at getting the box out on its own. A lot of things needed to be taken off, most difficult of which was the gear lever which is designed to be fitted before the engine and box are fitted but I managed it in the end. It's one heavy gearbox to have a few inches above your head
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First thing was the release bearing, present and correct. Then the plates. Nothing looks untoward so far
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Then I removed the pressure plate and got a suprise
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It was stuck very well indeed considering how little time it'd been together. I can only assume it was a damp day when I fitted it and the moisture got trapped. I'm glad I found the issue though and now it's just a case of getting someone to give me a lift and get it back onto the engine


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Post by *JP* » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:09 pm

I do recall when I had my D type recreation,with it's XJ6 engine and 0/D box,the clutch plate would stick quite often if left for more than 2 or 3 weeks...so perhaps this is an issue with this engine/ box?

I always managed to free it by turning the engine over with the car in top gear,brakes on and the clutch pedal depressed.Did this not work for you?



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Post by scimjim » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:02 pm

Both 8 ball and a GT6 in storage occasionally stick their clutch plates to the flywheels for some reason (while multiple other cars are fine), sometimes after only a couple of days, other times they'll be fine after being parked up for 10 weeks???


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Post by Oaksey » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:25 pm

I've never known one stick this easily. And it wouldn't have become unstuck without taking the box out, it was very well stuck to the flywheel


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Post by MikeyBikey » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:08 pm

Hmm, I need to do the same with the scimega... clutch is slipping under acceleration which at the moment is just about all the time... :roll: ps that clutch plate doesn’t look like it’s centred :D


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