ARB drop links and this radiator pipe...

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Post by hermeticist » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:05 pm

Hi,

More moronic entertainment!

As you can see, my drop links are not seating well and there is too much thread showing on the bolts, what have I done wrong?
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First of all I thought the ARB was upside down but it seems to be correct from the photos I took as I disassembled the front suspension...

My second thought is that the strengthened (not by me) front wishbones are causing issues by catching on the spring mount and not dropping far enough?

The second thing is the new stainless radiator pipe:
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Is the closest bracket supposed to bolt under the radiator itself (I'm fairly sure it didn't) or under the radiator support panel (temporarily attached in the photo)? Or have I got it totally wrong?!

Thank you for your help!



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Post by hermeticist » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:05 pm

Sorry, not sure why the pictures have decided to rotate themselves!



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Post by scimjim » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:11 pm

Looks like the arb is upside down to me. It’s kinked to clear the steering arm on max compression.

But then it looks similar to this one of mine?
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Post by hermeticist » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:15 pm

Oh... I did rotate it and seemed to have the same problem:
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Post by hermeticist » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:18 pm

Strangely, and in part because the shape is not obvious (I've tried to take photos to specifically show the difference), there are few photos that I could find showing the correct position clearly... Or I'm a dope!? Either is possible...



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Post by scimjim » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:27 pm

Where did you get the drop links from? Can’t see from the pic but I presume the lower rubbers are fitted.


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Post by reliant-reviver » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:30 pm

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Pic from my files.

The usual problem I have is the bolt is too short relative to the tube!


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Post by scimjim » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:32 pm

I’ve just checked and I have 2 cars with it one way and 2 with it the other :D :D :D


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Post by hermeticist » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:33 pm

Yep, one either side of the lower wishbone mounting point, which is correct, no? They are either from RR or QRG and the bushes are definitely QRG...



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Post by hermeticist » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:34 pm

Haha, want to swap bolts Philip? ;)



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Post by scimjim » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:35 pm

How long are the bolts - and the spacers?


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Post by hermeticist » Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:25 pm

I will check, I have a spare set... I used these specific ones because the bolts were 10.9 rather than the others, which were 8.8, although I doubt it makes a huge difference in this specific scenario...



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Post by reliant-reviver » Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:28 pm

Just cut the bolts down if there is enough thread to do so?

I've had various lengths over the years and trim then up according to what's required. Have had to shorten the tubes to get clearance from the top wishbone before.


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Post by scimjim » Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:30 pm

I have spacers of 60mm and 80mm but all bolts are 170mm (all approx).


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Post by hermeticist » Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:46 pm

Ok, the ones fitted are 200mm and the others are 170mm. Is there any reason to cut off the excess - apart from to make it neater? Tubes (spacers) are 92.5mm (spares) and those fitted are about 70mm... Well that sorts one thing then. I guess I need to fit long with long and so on?

I'm still a little concerned that the bushes seem cockeyed but this may be fixed with different spacers. I wonder if the different lengths would have any effect on the handling?

Any ideas on the bottom radiator tube?

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