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Potentially dumb question - SS1 sunroof

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:55 am
by pauluspaolo
Hi there,
I keep the hardtop on my SS1 99% of the time. If I want to go topless - not a pretty sight :shock: - I'll wind the windows down & take the sunroof out (I store it behind the passengers seat). However the catch on the sunroof has broken & the repairs I've made aren't holding up particularly well :(

So my question is: were all the sunroofs fitted in SS1 hardtops the same type made by the same manufacturer? I suspect the answer will be a resounding "NO" but if they were all from the same manufacturer has anyone any idea who the manufacturer is/was? I've not really had a proper look but I can't see a manufacturer's name on mine. I'm happy to take & post a photo if this will help?

Many thanks :)

Potentially dumb question - SS1 sunroof

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:05 am
by Jhdelta
I will be removing my sunroof in the coming months, it is the wind up type if of interest

Potentially dumb question - SS1 sunroof

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:07 am
by pauluspaolo
Many thanks for the reply - potentially of interest but mine's the pop up type (with a single central latch - over centre type) rather than a wind up/down unit, so yours is obviously a different make/model. It's really only the catch I need - the glass & surround are both fine - but it obviously needs to fit the glass & also mate into the bit attached to the roof itself.

I'll try & take some photos at lunchtime & post them on this thread :)

Potentially dumb question - SS1 sunroof

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:50 am
by scimjim
it was a factory option, so I would have thought those fitted by Reliant are probably all the same?

Potentially dumb question - SS1 sunroof

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:04 pm
by mikeh
Hi there,

Back in the 80's there were really only two sunroof manufacturers.

They were Britax (They went out of business years ago but the name was bought by someone else)

The other company was tudor webasto.

They are still going the aftermarket side of the business is based in Doncaster but you might find some parts on Ebay or elsewhere if you google them.

Mike

Potentially dumb question - SS1 sunroof

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:46 pm
by scimjim
I think Britax bought Weathershields and they took on all of the sunroof manufacture - Britax are still going strong.

Webasto bought (or merged with?) Hollandia who made the glass electric sunroof in the 6b.

I didn't know they'd moved to Doncaster after the Sutton Coldfield factory ran into trouble.

Potentially dumb question - SS1 sunroof

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:52 pm
by philhoward
There was still a Tudor Webasto factory in Sutton Coldfield (actually Minworth) last week when I drove past it - although which bit of Tudor Webasto product range it serves now, I don’t know.

Potentially dumb question - SS1 sunroof

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:26 pm
by pauluspaolo
Still working on the photos - it's been absolutely bouncing it down on & off today & the interior of the car has remained dry (a minor miracle in itself!) so I thought it best not to disturb the sunroof :shock:

Will try to get some sorted over the weekend. I've had a quick look on Ebay but can't find anything :(

Potentially dumb question - SS1 sunroof

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:01 pm
by mikeh
Oh the joys of Sunroof's.

Britax went bump and was bought out by another company that manufacture under that trade name.

Tudor Webasto was a joint venture the Tudor part of it was bought out by webasto when the English division got into trouble years ago.

They then bought out Hollandia and it's now all under one company.

The aftermarket division in minworth closed down but due to customer demand it reopen 10 years later in Doncaster.

The factory in Minworth only does the OE market so JLR, Honda etc no aftermarket stuff.

The reason I know all this is that I used to work there as Production manager and the ex other half still does.

Mike

Potentially dumb question - SS1 sunroof

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:18 pm
by philhoward
Thanks for filling in the blanks, Mike :D

Potentially dumb question - SS1 sunroof

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:20 pm
by myredscimitar
Hi all

The soft top on my 1600 is getting past it's best ( cracked screen, some stitching coming apart ) so last week I took it of for repair and fitted the hard top for the winter.

Since then of course the weather has been lovely and I'm missing the top down driving.

My hard top has a sunroof, but I can't open it. There must have been some sort of instructions on a label on the knob, but they have long since dropped off.


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The large knob does not want to turn either clock or anticlock and I'm reluctant to force it. There are a couple of " wing like " bits either side of the knob that look as if they might lock it somehow, but they don't want to move either. I've tried pulling, pushing, squeezing and rotating them ... no movement though.

Does anyone have this type of sunroof fitted? If so, perhaps you could give me some idea how it works. The sunnroof is perfectly water tight so I'm very reluctant to do anything to spoil that, but a bit more fresh air would be good while the good weather lasts.

Keith

Potentially dumb question - SS1 sunroof

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:38 pm
by Rattling
myredscimitar wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:20 pm
Hi all

The soft top on my 1600 is getting past it's best ( cracked screen, some stitching coming apart ) so last week I took it of for repair and fitted the hard top for the winter.

Since then of course the weather has been lovely and I'm missing the top down driving.

My hard top has a sunroof, but I can't open it. There must have been some sort of instructions on a label on the knob, but they have long since dropped off.



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The large knob does not want to turn either clock or anticlock and I'm reluctant to force it. There are a couple of " wing like " bits either side of the knob that look as if they might lock it somehow, but they don't want to move either. I've tried pulling, pushing, squeezing and rotating them ... no movement though.

Does anyone have this type of sunroof fitted? If so, perhaps you could give me some idea how it works. The sunnroof is perfectly water tight so I'm very reluctant to do anything to spoil that, but a bit more fresh air would be good while the good weather lasts.

Keith
It looks like mine if so it's leftie loose and righty tight :D mine does occasionally feel tight but spray with some plastic lubricant it should be ok

Potentially dumb question - SS1 sunroof

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:51 pm
by reliant-reviver
Push the knob up with the flat of your hand as you turn it. That way you are providing the force to open the sunroof and the plastic worm drive is not doing the hard work.

Potentially dumb question - SS1 sunroof

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:21 pm
by myredscimitar
Thanks both.

I'll give it a go in the morning, assuming the weather holds.

Keith

Potentially dumb question - SS1 sunroof

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:46 pm
by myredscimitar
That worked a treat. Knob was reluctant to turn, but with a bit more effort (and pushing up at the same time ) the sunroof opened.

Keith