SS1/SST chassis number location

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SS1/SST chassis number location

Post by tanuki » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:47 am

I have been using the search engine to find out if some old thread would contain this info, but only found several explanations about the GTEs ...
This afternoon the SST is booked for its french MOT and I foresee that the MOT guy is going to ask where the number is engraved on the chassis
(had the same issue already with Purple a few months ago :evil: )
I have been searching on the car but you cannot see much of the chassis in the engine bay, can you ? :?
Any pointers where to look at would be much appreciated !

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SS1/SST chassis number location

Post by scimjim » Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:46 am

It's stamped into the top of the chassis, between the front wishbone upper mounting lugs (fairly inaccessable!)
Galvanised cars have the chassis number on the RHS, non-galv on the LHS.

edit - early galv cars (with CVH mounts only) have it on the LHS too.


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Re: SS1/SST chassis number location

Post by philhoward » Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:53 am

Some cars appear to have it also stamped by the gearbox mounting I think - it might have been Erik who mentioned it so may only apply to factory LHD cars though?


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Re: SS1/SST chassis number location

Post by peter freeman » Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:04 am

I suppose it would not hurt if you stamped the number on yourself somewhere where it can easily be seen - the "MOT" man would not know the difference and would you be breaking any laws - I don't think so.



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Re: SS1/SST chassis number location

Post by tanuki » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:34 am

Thanks guys for the tips ... will have a look at both locations during my lunchbreak :wink:
Peter, I may very well have to get the number stamped on a 'visible' part of the chassis in the engine bay ...
that's what I had to to for Purple in September - the MOT guy himself suggested to do it myself, since we could not find the original number :roll: -
Thanks again !
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Re: SS1/SST chassis number location

Post by erikscimitardemon » Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:04 am

peter freeman wrote:I suppose it would not hurt if you stamped the number on yourself somewhere where it can easily be seen - the "MOT" man would not know the difference and would you be breaking any laws - I don't think so.
For all Dutch based members:
If you do this, you are breaking the law. Only the RDW has the legal right to put a VIN in a chassis, once the vehicle is known to the RDW.
If / when caught, you'd be in a long term traject where you need to proof the vehicle is legit. Or worse, you could be accused of fraud or worse.


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Re: SS1/SST chassis number location

Post by peter freeman » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:24 pm

How can you be accused of fraud if the number you stamp is the same as the number on the chassis - you are just making it easier to see.



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Re: SS1/SST chassis number location

Post by erikscimitardemon » Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:25 pm

peter freeman wrote:How can you be accused of fraud if the number you stamp is the same as the number on the chassis - you are just making it easier to see.
Welcome to the Dutch jungle :D
It is not allowed to stamp or engrave a VIN on a chassis in the Netherlands, unless you act on behalve of the authoroties.


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Re: SS1/SST chassis number location

Post by toomanysabres » Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:33 pm

Must be a nanny state. Drive over the border to Belgium or Germany do it there and drive back again :mrgreen:


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Re: SS1/SST chassis number location

Post by tanuki » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:45 pm

Thanks Erik for the warning to our dutch friends ...
I am not sure what the rules are in France, but it looks a little more flexible :wink:
I doubt that they would agree for a private person to do it, but provided that it is done by a professional
- with an invoice - upon request from an authority of some sort - in this case the MOT center - I should be OK :lol:
Not that I am looking forward to finding out ...

Anyway, the same MOT center that required the number to be engraved on Purple did not worry about the number on the SST :shock:
The guy was happy with the VIN plate and did not even look for the number on the chassis :roll:

Thanks anyway to everyone for the hints ... although I still cannot confirm to you where the bloody number is on my car ...

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Re: SS1/SST chassis number location

Post by scimjim » Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:02 pm

Yours is a galv Ti with battery in the front so you have a coolant pipe over it and the battery tray :-)


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Re: SS1/SST chassis number location

Post by tanuki » Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:52 pm

scimjim wrote:Yours is a galv Ti with battery in the front so you have a coolant pipe over it and the battery tray :-)
That's what I thought when I looked in the engine bay searching for the front wishbone on RHS - as per your previous remark -
one just cannot see this part of the chassis unless taking out battery, tray and a couple of pipes :lol:
Oh well, next time I have a chance to expose the chassis in this area, I will try to take a pic :wink:

Thanks Jim :mrgreen:


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Re: SS1/SST chassis number location

Post by Alan SS1 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:54 pm

scimjim wrote:Yours is a galv Ti with battery in the front so you have a coolant pipe over it and the battery tray :-)
(just beaten by Fred)
aye like nice and obvious . . . . . Reliant not being content with having tripled jointed hands you need eyes on the tips of your fingers? :mrgreen:

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he said 'it must be fixed to the car' so i just used double sided foam pads to stick it to the A pillar at front door, he seemed happy enough with that :wink: :shock:

I've not had it tested for a while so maybe a bit stricter now . . . . .


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Re: SS1/SST chassis number location

Post by scimjim » Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:17 pm

The chassis plate is on top of the RH inner wing - some European countries insist on it being physically stamped into the chassis too (the UK MOT only requires one VIN to be "complete and legible") - Holland requires other info on the plate (over and above that required for the EU type approval) - my GTC had to have a plate added by the RDW.


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Re: SS1/SST chassis number location

Post by Oldconn » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:48 am

Fred wrote:"doubt that they would agree for a private person to do it, but provided that it is done by a professional
- with an invoice - upon request from an authority of some sort - in this case the MOT center - I should be OK :lol:
Not that I am looking forward to finding out ..."
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