Death of a Scimitar

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Re: Death of a Scimitar

Post by sabre1800ti » Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:07 pm

AJL Electronics wrote:It will go in the post tonight. The postage for 2m is a bit tight for large letter, but hopefully we will get away with it!
If any extra cost let me know & I'll PayPal it to you.


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Re: Death of a Scimitar

Post by JoeySully » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:20 pm

Here is another one that I found on Flickr :(

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Re: Death of a Scimitar

Post by philhoward » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:35 pm

That's Peter Misy' 6a..
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Re: Death of a Scimitar

Post by AJL Electronics » Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:14 pm

Not just Scimitars!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... 20mph.html
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Re: Death of a Scimitar

Post by scimjim » Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:25 pm

Gallardos are well known for self-igniting.
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Re: Death of a Scimitar

Post by Oaksey » Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:31 pm

Yes, due to the power steering pipes bursting all over the exhaust. You'd have thought they would've fixed it, seeing as it's been on sale for 11 years...


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Re: Death of a Scimitar

Post by Scimher » Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:42 am

...Certainly not going to help the, no doubt, exorbitant insurance premiums..............



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Re: Death of a Scimitar

Post by colinf » Wed May 07, 2014 1:24 pm

How much of each size hose is needed to replace all fuel hoses on a late (1990) SS1?
Have found these who supply Gates, Goodyear and Codan
http://www.flexiducting.co.uk/automotive_hoses_26.html so may be of use
prices seem sensible to me but what do i know (about fuel hoses - next to nothing)


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Re: Death of a Scimitar

Post by AJL Electronics » Wed May 07, 2014 2:08 pm

So why not buy from a supplier that does? ;-) http://ajlelectronics.co.uk/epages/8323 ... Fuel_hoses


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Re: Death of a Scimitar

Post by scimjim » Wed May 07, 2014 2:09 pm

CVH or Ti? bore is different I think.

there's only a few bits of rubber on them (two feed and two return at tank end and engine end - the Ti has a fuel filter in there too) - the nylon pipes down the transmission tunnel should be okay.


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Re: Death of a Scimitar

Post by philhoward » Wed May 07, 2014 2:15 pm

Half the problem is the nylons are IMHO too short, leaving the joint out of sight and easy reach.

CVH uses 8mm feed and 6mm return until the tank I thought; Ti is 8mm both ways I think?

I would have thought that 2m of rubber would do the trick - maybe less if putting new nylon pipes in.

One thing to remember - new rubber hose isn't the thinwall stuff used originally so won't fit through the original holes in the chassis..


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Re: Death of a Scimitar

Post by scimjim » Wed May 07, 2014 2:18 pm

I think I'm going to open up the holes in the chassis into one large oval hole and p-clip the hoses there.


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Re: Death of a Scimitar

Post by philhoward » Wed May 07, 2014 2:29 pm

I'd pass them outboard of the main rails and though the non-exhaust hole in the chassis personally..


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Re: Death of a Scimitar

Post by reliant-reviver » Wed May 07, 2014 3:22 pm

Ti is 8mm feed 6mm return.

Colin's car is a CVH. A meter of each should just about do it, though make it 1.5m to be sure.

http://www.ssldieselparts.co.uk/pipes-h ... av5ritp365
This site has an array of pipe and fittings at a very competitive price. Though I'm not 100% sure of what the quality or manufacturer of their "marine grade" fuel hose is.


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Re: Death of a Scimitar

Post by colinf » Fri May 16, 2014 10:12 pm

I think that maybe RR has supernatural / clairvoyant / malevolent powers. He had a quick look at the fuel pipes on my CVH the other weekend and said they seem OK - which they did and were. I had already decided to change the pipes at some time in the not to distant future as a result of this thread / peace of mind. Today i came home from work to find they car in the drive as usual but a strong smell and small pool of petrol underneath it. On further inspection i found a pin hole in the flow pipe cause it seems by on of the metal pipe clips that hold the flow and return pipes together between the pump and the hole in the bulkhead, apart from this pin hole the rest of the pipe seems in good nick. I will have to try to replace tomorrow if i can get supplies of decent quality.
I have several motor factors and also boat chandlers in the area is it worth trying to spec marine grade?
What is the best way to access the pipe union in the transmission tunnel how awkward is it to get at?
The service manual states that when removing the pipe from the tank connect to plug the end, what is the best thing to plug it with (no I AM NOT GOING TO TRY USING THAT!!)
Any other things of this PITA job I should be aware of?
Maybe i should ask RR to do it for me - after all it could be that he "caused" it - Damn cant get the car over to him
Would it be safe to cut out an inch of the pipe where the pin hole is and then put some form of connector / union in to rejoin them (for a short time only) to give me chance to source decent pipes.


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