My main interest though is in the timelines of SST/Sabre production, especially with regard to SST numbers... I think I'm becoming an SST anorak With this in mind, some of my ramblings here may already be common knowledge and I'm late to the party, or I could also be way off beam, in which case I'm here to be corrected.
BTW I'm half expecting the mods here to split this off into a separate detective thread, which might be an idea as it doesn't completely relate to the original post.
To that end I have an observation to make regarding the photo of the Reliant workshop. (For the purposes of this post I have stored this photo in my scimweb gallery space so that it doesn't eat up Dave Poole's bandwidth and cost him money)
The blue Sabre on the extreme right... what is that boot spoiler? It seems much taller than the ones on the Sabres on the left (Mk2 spoiler?) and definitely not a Mk1 spoiler. It looks like the same type of spoiler as fitted to M866 LOA
I'm with you, RR, on the white one being a Sabre, presuming it's under construction in this photo, as this photo must be post August 94 and SST sales and production would be well and truly over by this time. The SST wasn't an option on the April 1994 price list. The rear bumper is clearly a Sabre model bumper since the tail lights are in line with the number plate, though the front bumper would appear to be an SST bumper!reliant-reviver wrote:Jim, I believe the white one to be a Sabre, as I know of at least 1 other "Sabre" which was ordered without the "tarty skirts and petticoats"
That or it could be an SST with a tail spoiler as you suggest.
Regarding M857LOA originally SST number 25, could it be another SST that didn't get out of the factory before the gates closed on the 1990/91 factory closure? I believe that was the fate that befell our SST no.39 (built 1990 registered Aug 1991, J plate) and I know that number 21 built 1990 escaped onto a H plate as that's my brother's... and no. 38 as owned by Ben Kenobe had black bumpers so I presume it escaped beforehand too (My theory here being that coloured bumpers were introduced when Beans reopened for business) One thought I had to explain this is that as there were more 1.8 engined versions made, there might have been an excess of these over the 1400 versions and therefore a backlog in the factory. Dunno, just speculating... but it'd be interesting to see the chassis numbers versus registration dates for this period to see if there's any correlation.reliant-reviver wrote:Righty, this car M857LOA, the chassis number codes as built August 1990 as an Scimitar SST / Sabre mk1
The paint code 75, only crops up on 4 cars, also notable is that most T body cars have a 90 or 99 paint code, which is Reliant for "paint which was cheap / ordered / going off / what? they actually want for us to paint it this shade of..."
The car was registered 24/05/95, and "declared new at first registration" on the V5.
M866LOA, chassis 2179, the '94 restyled Sabre turbo was registered 18/08/94, and "built" Jun '93. To that end this makes M857 the last Sabre Turbo registered by Reliant. With the T registered Sabre built by GW from ex-Reliant parts the last techincally registered.
And one final query... presuming there is only one of these twin headlamp restyled versions of the Sabre, when and why did L94 REL change to M866 LOA? I don't know if this has been discussed previously anywhere or even if the explanation is common knowledge. Judging by the photos of the progress of M866LOA on Dave's website, it seems to me that M866LOA started life as a blue Sabre Mk2 minus back end, reg L94 REL which is a Chelmsford plate, and for whatever reason was chosen as the guinea pig vehicle for these alterations. Was it indeed registered in Essex possibly by Hedingham Car Centre (Reliant dealers where our SST no. 39 was first registered as J14 SST as a demonstrator) or was it just a private plate registered by Reliant denoting a 94 Reliant? It would appear a bit out of character though as they didn't seem to do that sort of thing with other regs. Anyhow, the L reg plate appears on the back of the restyled yellow car nearing completion in the workshop then later photos show it wearing the M reg plate. Would this go some way to explaining the discrepancy in the order of the registration dates between M866 and M857?