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Post by Clueless1 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:10 pm

Hi, first of many questions and I haven’t even had the car yet! I am having a 1988 SS1 1600CVH next weekend which has been standing for 5 years. I aim to go through all of the perishables, fuel lines, brakes, suspension etc. First up will be the engine. It has 101k on the clock, I am going to change the cam belt and fully service it and ultra sonic clean the carb. Is there anything specific that I should be looking out for?
Thanks in advance, Nigel.
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Post by reliant-reviver » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:49 pm

What are you setting out to achieve? Smooth running and reliability? Power and performance?

You're on the right lines for recommissioning it anyway. Fuel pipes is a priority.


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Post by Clueless1 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:48 pm

I want a reliable, fast road car. Don’t want too harsh a ride so going for rubber bushes, maybe uprate the shocks/springs.


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Post by efi_sprintgte » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:17 am

I agree, fuel lines should be a top priority.

I’m no small sports expert, but while the suspension is apart being rebushed I would reinforce the wishbones and trailing arms (there’s so many pics on this forum of both being snapped!).

Good luck, looks like a nice little car :)


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Post by Nick » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:56 am

I agree re top wishbone with James. Worth checking trailing arm, if not corroded should be ok for road use.


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Post by reliant-reviver » Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:50 am

As an '88 car I would expect it had the Weber TLDM carb. Not a bad carb and adequate although ultimately there are better options for performance. Do check the vacuum operated secondary throttle butterfly is working as it should be. Top it off with a better flowing airfilter (my preference would be a new element in the original housing).

At over a 100k you may want to consider a top end over haul. Stem seals can be done in site, but it may well be a case that the head wants a de-coke and quite probably a new camshaft and followers. Is there any supporting history to suggest it's been well looked after? CVH engines do not tolerate neglect well.

Oh yes. Vehicles details to the club registrar please. ss1.registrar@rssoc.co.uk.

And more pictures for the rest of us. Looks a clean and original example.


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Post by Clueless1 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:43 am

Thanks all,
Is there anywhere in particular that’s recommended for the bits needed, i.e. Graham Walkers or QRG, or is it fleabay?
With the top suspension arms, reinforcing? Do you mean welding in strengthening? I will scroll through the forum and look for the post. I can do most of the spannering but welding....more like seagull s**t when I attempt it 😁


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Post by scimjim » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:47 am

Lots of bits can be found on fleabay, lots of people on here have bits squirrelled away but some bits are only/cheaper in the long run from GW/QRG/etc.

Always ask first though - too many people have things like Rover Metro discs that are incorrectly listed on ebay as fitting the small sports.


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Post by Clueless1 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:03 pm

The cylinder head, is just a standard 1600 cvh one, and if so would I gain anything by fitting one from a XR2/i? Same goes for the camshaft and followers?


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Post by Mikelima48 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:37 pm

Yes please, details to me at the email address shown. Congratulations on you choice of car, it photographs well and with your improvements should provide miles of fun.

The advice you have received on here is sound. I've fitted SPAX adjustable shock absorbers all round on my car. Just 2 clicks 'harder' from the standard setting provides a good compromise between improved handling and a comfortable ride, in my experience.

Do keep us informed of your prgress, good luck, hope you enjoy your Small Sports car.

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Post by philhoward » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:53 pm

Clueless1 wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:03 pm
The cylinder head, is just a standard 1600 cvh one, and if so would I gain anything by fitting one from a XR2/i? Same goes for the camshaft and followers?
The XR2i apparently had a slightly better ported head than standard BUT the camshaft doesn’t have the drive in the end for a distributor. I can’t remember if the head has the mounting holes drilled for one either.


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Post by reliant-reviver » Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:21 pm

Again, being an 88 car it should have the lean burn engine and hence a kidney shape combustion chamber.
These heads can be ported to good effect, but with caution or additional research as some castings are different to others and you can easily break through into waterways on some cases.

Cam shaft wise you are best to look at a new set from Newman or Kent, sadly I think Piper have stopped doing CVH cams now.

Would echo what Mike had said. Largely I have used SPAX on my own cars. To be fair the front dampers are the component in the original setup that is best changed. The rest is OK spec wise and if in good condition, then perfectly acceptable for fast road type use.


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Post by scimjim » Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:38 pm

IIRC the injection head has cutouts in the inlet ports for the injectors that you need to blank off - more hassle than it’s worth IMHO.
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Post by Mikeincoleshill » Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:39 pm

Hi Nigel
I got my car about eighteen months ago, a 1600 CVH. I didn't know too much about them but what I did do was read up all that I could from this forum and one or two magazine articles.
This forum contains a massive amount of useful information and tips collected over the years.
My car has a 1600 CVH engine fitted with a Piper fast road cam and a DMTR carb and K&N air filter. Tickover is slightly more lumpy and the car is quite noisy when opened up which I quite like!
I rebuilt the front suspension last year after the near side upper wishbone snapped on a bumpy bit of road, and after experiencing this would recommend fitting strengthened upper wishbones. These can be obtained second hand or new from Walkers or QRG (Nigel at QRG was making some recently). I have used standard rubber bushes on mine and they work fine. I have poly bushed the anti roll bars. Front shocks are AVO adjustables. The steering rack was reconditioned in September and both track rod ends replaced and the rack mounts replaced with poly mountings.
Brakes have been upgraded by a P.O. to vented disks and these seem to work very well, though obviously don't know what they were like before.
Fuel lines have been replaced just before I had the car.
Main sources for parts for me have been on here,ebay,Walkers,QRG and Reliant Parts World (Who advertise on ebay).
Good luck with your car, as soon as the weather improves (end of next week I hope) get the roof off and give it some welly
I am sure you will enjoy it, and make sure you take to Curborough in August.
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Post by Clueless1 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:57 pm

Cheers Mike, and everyone else. I’ve looked at a cam and followers from BHP, £125 delivered but was thinking of a fast road item. I’ll email Piper tomorrow for a price and give a mate a call up in Staffs who can open the head up a bit.
Busy watching Bill Sims dvd....frightening myself now 💩
Cheers all.


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