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Re: Another plastic car project...

Post by nickkeyser » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:21 am

Coelhomaluco wrote:Might have a Engine coming this weekend... Anyone has any idea where to get the wiring diagram for the kitten? I think I have part of it missing (ie battery connections). Another question, is there anyone that can cut me a key for the ignition and doors using the barrel to do it? The previous owner couldnt find them...
Battery wiring isn't integral too the loom. Battery + is a big read lead from the battery across the front of the front of the engine bay on two P clips, connected to the starter solenoid under the blower fan duct.

Negative is 12" of black cable onto the long head stud.

Wiring diagram is in the robin and kitten Haynes.


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Re: Another plastic car project...

Post by Crouchie_b » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:40 am

Just realised this is about 3 screens late!
But most proper locksmiths will be able to sort a key for a barrel by removing the barrel & checking the pins.
They can even use the same method to re-pin a barrel of the same type to match a key you already have (if they have the spare pins).
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Re: Another plastic car project...

Post by AJL Electronics » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:43 am

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Re: Another plastic car project...

Post by Coelhomaluco » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:16 am

Did I mention you guys are great? Thanks for the pointers in sorting out the keys, and thanks for the wiring diagram AJL... Body os already loose on the chassis now I have to figure out a way to man handle it out of the chassis by myself. That is going to be fun... Another thing I realised is that the "rollbar" that is on the middle of the Car seems to be made out of rust mostely... Some fabrication will have to come into play, and as I have no interior at all, a propper rollcage might be the way to go... Time (and money) will tell.


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Re: Another plastic car project...

Post by Coelhomaluco » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:22 am

scimjim wrote:The kitten wiring diagram would fit on the back of a fag packet :-)

:shock: you weren't kidding Jim... I could rewire the whole car in a day... lol


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Re: Another plastic car project...

Post by Roger Pennington » Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:41 pm

Coelhomaluco wrote:... Another thing I realised is that the "rollbar" that is on the middle of the Car seems to be made out of rust mostely... Some fabrication will have to come into play, and as I have no interior at all, a propper rollcage might be the way to go... Time (and money) will tell.
Just in case you haven't seen it, there's quite a lot in one of Joe's Rebel threads about re-making the metalwork, which may be of some help?


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Re: Another plastic car project...

Post by Coelhomaluco » Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:04 pm

That looks like what I have to do on mine. Taking the body off the car will give me a better idea of how it can be done, but that was more or less what I had on my mind.


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Re: Another plastic car project...

Post by Coelhomaluco » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:03 pm

Ok, just got home from a 400 miles round trip to pick up a engine (Wales) and now I have a yellow top 850, gearbox (came with the engine) and rear seats (from a rialto, but might fit...
Sorry AJL, but a series of delays dictated that I couldn't go and visit you.

On a side note, when I was returning home, there was a cream se6 (I think) broken down on the M6... Anyone from here? lol


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Re: Another plastic car project...

Post by scimjim » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:24 am

I always chuckle at the mention of "yellow top" - you have an unknown engine with a yellow rocker box cover :-)


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Re: Another plastic car project...

Post by Marmaduke » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:39 am

Best way to check on the yellow top is to see if the engine number has the "/E" stamped at the end. That said its no guarantee that its a 10.5/1 compression head - you can generally tell by looking at the thickness of the heads deck - it should look fairly thin when compared to a standard 850cc head.


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Re: Another plastic car project...

Post by Coelhomaluco » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:02 pm

Don't really mind if It's not a 10:1 compression engine, I'm happy with the price I payed and the fact that it runs.


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Re: Another plastic car project...

Post by Marmaduke » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:49 pm

Good to hear you got it for a good price :-)
A kitten will be fine with a good red top it's what it came with from the factory anyway.
it is still worth checking the block though to see if it has the /E. as the /E block has a different camshaft which means you'll need a different SU carb needle - a /E block uses AEB - Whilst all other blocks use AAT, it doesn't sound like much but it can upset the running of the engine if it's wrong.


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Re: Another plastic car project...

Post by Coelhomaluco » Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:25 pm

Well, the engine came complete with the carb it was running , alternator, fan, starter and distributor (not sure if he sent me the coil or not) and it was running sweet with nice tickover and no tappet noises.
It came off of a late 80's rialto (think 87), already has unleaded conversion, so it's a win in every point, just drop it in and run it...
Now I really have to pull my finger out, get some help and get the body off to repair the few rust issues it has.
And need wheels really as those stick out too much...


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Re: Another plastic car project...

Post by nickkeyser » Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:32 pm

I've probably got some 10" standard steels if you want some.


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Re: Another plastic car project...

Post by Coelhomaluco » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:10 pm

Let me see what I manage to find around here and if nothing crops up standard will do... Lots of mini owners in the área, might get a good deal with some luck.


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