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Lamm/Reliant Rebel Expreimental Electric Car ... Ebay Sale

Post by Joe. » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:40 pm

I wanted to buy this but the seller has decided to let the auction run and I now think it will go beyond my budget... As Dave and myself are now not likely to be the new owners I thought I'd share it here in case it 'sparked' someone else's interest.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... TQ:GB:1123

The listing is very poor but I've spoken to the seller its actually a experimental Lamm Electric car and was the creation of a London university lecturer in 1974. He used an unregistered Rebel bought directly from Reliant as a starting point. It is actually registered as a Lamm ( you wont find it on the dvla database as a Reliant.) The drivetrain appears to be a 72v electric motor of a type commonly used in forklifts and milkfoats. Supposedly it should be MOT and Tax exempt too. I suppose it could be thought of as some kind of bastard cousin to an Enfield Electric... With added obscurity.

I'd love to see it put on the road in line with the creators original aims retaining as much of the original kit as you can,

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Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:49 pm

Interesting oddity! I'm not sure about the MOT position, but I think it's correct that electric vehicles are all tax exempt?


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Post by lozzzzzz » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:13 am

That is very interesting, I fancy an EV project, but I'm not sure 7hp would cut it.

It would be great to see the restoration taking place through a thread on here.


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Re: Lamm/Reliant Rebel Expreimental Electric Car ... Ebay Sa

Post by MG Mal » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:38 am

An interesting project.
I'm not far from the seller if transportation is an issue for any new owner. (have trailer etc)

I wonder if it could be retro fitted with a more modern electric unit to improve usability?

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Post by sonofparker » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:27 pm

Ooo thyristor drive, how quaint.

Definitely sounds interesting, and I would be interested if I had anywhere to charge it, did a lot of driving in cities, and had a load of cash to buy batteries. Electric cars are also exempt from the London congestion charge so could be useful for someone who is masochistic enough to want to drive in Central London.

Using a series wound motor sounds like a strange choice to me when an electronic controller is being used, and 7hp does sound a bit low. On the other hand, electric motors are different to petrol engines in that one of the main limits to power output is the thermal limit, so you could probably get quite a lot more power out over the short term before the motor overheats.

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Re: Lamm/Reliant Rebel Expreimental Electric Car ... Ebay Sa

Post by philhoward » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:36 pm

7hp from zero speed is the advantage! Would probably be surprisingly nippy as it weighs very little indeed..


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Post by windy » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:50 pm

sonofparker wrote:Using a series wound motor sounds like a strange choice to me when an electronic controller is being used, and 7hp does sound a bit low. On the other hand, electric motors are different to petrol engines in that one of the main limits to power output is the thermal limit, so you could probably get quite a lot more power out over the short term before the motor overheats.Max
Its apparently possible to extract quite a few hundred horsepower out of these 7hp milk float motors, for around 10 to 20 seconds before they self destruct. Just enough time for one run up the strip!



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Re: Lamm/Reliant Rebel Expreimental Electric Car ... Ebay Sa

Post by reliant-reviver » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:19 pm

7HP wouldn't be too bad.

Off the top of my head the original 700 would have made 32bhp and the 600 a mere 26bhp, and all this at high revs, which most probably wouldn't use . Remember that power figure would be on a good day, and the reality is generally Reliant lumps were below par in build terms. Be interesting to see a comparison of torque figures.

Joe, hope it stays in budget, refitted with rebuilt or improved components, it would be quite the economy vehicle! Perfick for whizzing about the Isle of Wight


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Post by Joe. » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:32 pm

reliant-reviver wrote:7HP wouldn't be too bad.

Off the top of my head the original 700 would have made 32bhp and the 600 a mere 26bhp, and all this at high revs

Joe, hope it stays in budget, refitted with rebuilt or improved components, it would be quite the economy vehicle! Perfick for whizzing about the Isle of Wight
Rebel 600: 28BHP at 5,250 rpm, Max torque 31.25lb ft at 3,000 rpm.
Rebel 700: 31BHP at 5,000 rpm, Max torque 38lb ft at 3,000 rpm.

Bidding appears to have slowed up a bit now so we'll see how it goes, I agree it would be ideal on the island but ultimately i don't need a third vehicle (although the girlfriends learning to drive and likes electric cars!)

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Re: Lamm/Reliant Rebel Expreimental Electric Car ... Ebay Sa

Post by Joe. » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:11 pm

Just a quick update to say the auction ended but it wasn't me that won it!

Hopefully the new owner will do a tidy job and get it back on the road... :)



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Post by Roger Pennington » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:20 pm

Seems to have attracted quite a bit of bidding.


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