6a Front Suspension - back to standard height?!

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Post by RichM » Tue May 28, 2019 1:05 pm

Actually Jim, the pic is slightly misleading - if you look at the lower bracket you can see the spacer is short by about 1mm...still it's comfortably more than half of the bracket thickness though.
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Post by scimjim » Tue May 28, 2019 1:11 pm

Is that 1mm due to corrosion build up on the outer side of the damper bracket?

The general consensus for many years has been to put them in the wrong way round if fitting wider dampers.


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Post by gtcse8 » Tue May 28, 2019 1:16 pm

When I make the collars I always give them enough `Shoulder to go through the eye and ensure it nips the centre sleeve of the bush.
I always advise people to scrape away any rust or paint IF FITTING THEM FROM THE OUTSIDE.
If fitted inside the "Brim" of the collar abuts this central sleeve.

Bushes in shockers can be a nightmare if the fitters are not aware there are now about Four different types and Two widths.

I have bored out or sleeved quite a few over the years to take the much longer lasting bonded sleeve types.


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Post by JoeySully » Tue May 28, 2019 1:40 pm

I think the later brackets may be made of thicker steel too.



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Post by RichM » Fri May 31, 2019 4:43 pm

30th May
New Vertical links have arrived, ready to de-grease & paint before transferring over the other bits.
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Post by RichM » Fri May 31, 2019 4:45 pm

Test fitted the trunnions, much better, no play anymore.
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Post by RichM » Fri May 31, 2019 4:48 pm

Time to put some solder on the trunnions as recommended to stop the grease using past the bottom plates.
Fingers crossed...
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Plenty of solder flowed into the gaps, visible from inside too, hopefully that will stop the grease escaping.



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Post by RichM » Fri May 31, 2019 4:52 pm

31st May
New Vert links and fulcrums ready for primer.
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Thought I'd see if a bit of Nitromors would remove the remains of the shoddy powder coat on the Spax dampers. Worked well so I'll continue to prep these ready for painting too.
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Post by Dennis Nicholas » Fri May 31, 2019 11:44 pm

scimjim wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 11:41 am
What’s the problem with putting the top hat washers on the other way round to accommodate wider dampers? The minor wear to the inner faces is exactly the same as every other vehicle in the world suffers? The top hat spacers were introduced to accommodate the thinner dampers, not prevent wear on the inner face.
The bracket holes are 5/8 inch. the ID of the damper bush metal sleeve is 1/2 inch; supposing the metal sleeve is 1/16 inch thick that gives OD of 1/2 + 1/16 + 1/16 = 5/8 inches which would let the sleeve go inside the bracket till it meets the outside placed spacer OR if slightly thicker then a very small amount of the sleeve would be bearing on the inside of the bracket.......either way NOT GOOD. The first mod had bracket and bush holes both 1/2 inch so sleeve was fully bearing against flat spacer washers which took up the distance with the narrower bushes.......BUT for mod stage 2 when the bracket holes were made bigger at 5/8 then the spacer "top hat" type was inserted inside the bracket to reduce hole to 12 inch and to provide a face for the total end edge of the sleeve and probably the rubber, to bear against. Draw it to scale and the penny will drop.

Re modern cars........they apparently just get thrown away when bits get worn......I don't intend to follow that route with my GTC.......however should you be intending that action I will not charge you to dump your Scimitars at my place :lol:


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