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Post by upstart8s » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:04 pm

Hello again.

Just a note to re-introduce myself. Some of you may remember that I had a year with a 1977 automatic se6a (Jan '16 to Jan 17) followed by an early 1600 SS1 which had a galvanised chassis retro-fitted (April '16 to Aug '16) which caused havoc to my knees due to being a manual gearbox. This was replaced at the end of September by an automatic Mazda Eunos (early MX5 import with flip-up headlights and the early 1600 N/A engine which gave me a number of fun track days) That is currently SORN pending a decision on its future.

Yesterday, I caught a train to Wisbech and bought the white Dec 1977 se6a which had been advertised on Ebay. I had an extended test drive and agreed to buy the car which has been relisted as VHI on the registration document. Really, (on the hottest day of the year in the hottest part of the country) the only problems with the car were that the battery had gone flat due to not being used lately and the temperature gauge and clock were not working. I drove the car home (90 plus miles) along the A17, then up the A1 to Ranby.

Shortly after leaving the A1, I noticed a plume of steam coming from the bonnet. I had been using the manually controlled electric fan throughout the journey (I was reluctant to stop due to the uncertainty about the battery). I switched the fan on again and eventually came to a standstill, around half a mile from home! My brother-in-law (who was in bed after working a night-shift) came to my rescue and towed the car to his home, where it was parked overnight pending an opportunity to repair.

Hell? I went to Halfords to see about getting a new battery Yuasa 3057. "Sorry that's a four-figure number and we only do 3-figure numbers"! I thanked the young man and reverted to the good old WWWeb. I ordered a battery from Tanya and an Otter switch kit from Nigel at QRG.

So a lot of Heaven and a little bit of Hell on my first day as a renewed Scimitar owner. I will be back on here again with all those silly questions which have been asked and answered so many times, hopefully before Curborough...

Stu



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Post by Laters » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:37 pm

Great to hear that you have finally found the car for you Stu.

A lot of the local parts places to me have the same attitude. I tend to research their part numbers for stuff so it saves any problems.
I got my se6 battery from ecp as it was the cheapest with longest warranty I could find on the net. It helped they had a silly offer on that weekend.

Good luck with your car. Mine is still not being used due to keeping finding small bodges that the previous owner thought was ok. Fingers crossed it will be soon.


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Post by upstart8s » Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:44 pm

Paul, Dave the previous owner was devasted about the problem, but I assured him that's part of owning a historic vehicle. Otherwise the car looks to have been well looked-after under his stewardship, I hope I can do as well as he did.
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Post by Laters » Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:00 pm

At least its a easy fix.
Is it the white one with the extra badges?

Even though I have mine sat outside I still keep checking ebay both for the parts I am looking for and to keep a eye on the prices.


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Post by upstart8s » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:32 am

Yes Paul, it is the very same. I missed it first time round on Gumtree and had just about given up hope of ever being able to afford one. I am confined to barracks today awaiting the couriers knocking down my front door, then I can recover my new toy. My next step is to download a copy of Peters' brilliant colour-coded wiring diagram and check out the temperature gauge, and then get a copy of club manual. Today will also see me doing the rounds of the insurance websites and looking for a recovery service, (I have been lucky in the last 50 years of driving not to need one until now).
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Post by scimjim » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:40 am

Very brave driving an unknown 6a so far without a temp gauge! I would have left the fan on permenantly.


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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
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Post by MarkHawkins » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:17 am

Some Series Land Rovers didn't have temperature gauges at all - our 1967 2a didn't - just a fuel gauge and an ammeter. Seemed to work OK - the limiting factor in driving it was the discomfort of rusted springs and ancient cross plies.


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Post by scimjim » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:40 am

Yep, S2 and early 2a had oil and fuel but that changed to temp and fuel around the same time as the headlights were moved to the wings.


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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Post by upstart8s » Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:28 am

scimjim wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:40 am
Very brave driving an unknown 6a so far without a temp gauge! I would have left the fan on permenantly.
Did you really mean foolish, Jim? Yes I agree. The problem I felt was that with an 'iffy' battery and voltage showing just 12 volts, I didn't want to risk killing the battery by running it all the way home.

I have now fitted a new Otter switch and battery. The radiator warms-up and holds its pressure. The new switch stays in place, the fan switches on and the temperature gauge seems to be working OK. I will do an oil/filter change before taking it for a drive. I think I need to investigate a recovery service.

Online registration has gone OK (insurance in place) the VED was free and the MOT (which expired on Monday) was accepted as being exempt!

All-in-all, a good days' work...

Stu



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Post by DARK STAR » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:51 pm

if there's no water in the cooling system a fan won't make much difference 8)


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Post by scimjim » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:23 pm

DARK STAR wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:51 pm
if there's no water in the cooling system a fan won't make much difference 8)
I think the loss of coolant was a direct result of the lack of fan 8)


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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
Chief mechanic for: 1400 K series SS1 (Megan3), 1400 CVH EFi SS1 (Grawpy), Sabre/MX5 auto (The Flying Broomstick),
1300 SS1 (Number One) & Sarah's coupe.
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Post by DARK STAR » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:53 pm

Ah, been there :? but mine blew the water out of the rad cap not the otter switch


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