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Post by upstart8s » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:28 am

Just a little bit of a silly enquiry. (I still can't do clever stuff like links) :
a 1976 se6a has just appeared on Ebay as a barn find without paperwork and no reserve. If I understand the brave new world we are about to enter in May... If I could manage to get a new logbook from DVLA, could I just register and tax the car as a Vehicle of Historic Interest and drive it home without bothering with an MOT (I would blow the tyres up and clean the windows first)?
I have no intention of bidding on this vehicle!
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Post by scimjim » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:35 am

This car?

If you could find the keys and it started, you could technically drive it home after May 20 without breaking the law of not having an MOT (as you currently can with any car built before 1960).

The number of C&U regs you’d be breaking would be massive - and you’d get a huge number of Darwin points too :D


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Post by upstart8s » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:18 am

Yes Jim, that's the one. It is in my price range. Perhaps I'll wait until something better comes along...
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Post by backpain » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:21 am

If you power washed it and T cut etc ,,be surprised just how good it would look ,,,,,as you push it onto a trailer :D


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Post by rebel alliance » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:48 am

Then go back and pick up the bits of chassis that fell off...



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Post by Geraint SabreGTCse5 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:56 am

DVLA won't issue a V5C(W) for vehicles that have been off the road and a new keeper is applying for the original reg (regardless of the age) without a valid MOT. Don't underestimate the effort to obtain a v5... £25 plus a one page application does not cut it any more.

Jim is right, technically you could drive it, but if stopped by police/ DVSA and it deemed unroadworthy you would be riding a bike for a couple of years!!!


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Post by GeoffTE » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:53 pm

Geraint SabreGTCse5 wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:56 am
DVLA won't issue a V5C(W) for vehicles that have been off the road and a new keeper is applying for the original reg (regardless of the age) without a valid MOT. Don't underestimate the effort to obtain a v5... £25 plus a one page application does not cut it any more.

Jim is right, technically you could drive it, but if stopped by police/ DVSA and it deemed unroadworthy you would be riding a bike for a couple of years!!!
Yes, but.....how do you get a valid MoT if the car is not registered? It's not " on the computer". My Elan had been off the road for 40 years, couldn't get an MoT until it was on the DVLA database. Took 6 months to sort it out as no records of it, but I still had a small scrap of an old V5, which was enough for them to issue a new one, THEN I could get it MoT'd


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Post by scimjim » Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:19 pm

If it wasn’t transferred into the DVLA electronic system, that’s another level of problems to sort out. This car’s on the system though.


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Post by Geraint SabreGTCse5 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:21 pm

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Post by Geraint SabreGTCse5 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:23 pm

GeoffTE wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:53 pm
Geraint SabreGTCse5 wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:56 am
DVLA won't issue a V5C(W) for vehicles that have been off the road and a new keeper is applying for the original reg (regardless of the age) without a valid MOT. Don't underestimate the effort to obtain a v5... £25 plus a one page application does not cut it any more.

Jim is right, technically you could drive it, but if stopped by police/ DVSA and it deemed unroadworthy you would be riding a bike for a couple of years!!!
Yes, but.....how do you get a valid MoT if the car is not registered? It's not " on the computer". My Elan had been off the road for 40 years, couldn't get an MoT until it was on the DVLA database. Took 6 months to sort it out as no records of it, but I still had a small scrap of an old V5, which was enough for them to issue a new one, THEN I could get it MoT'd
being "not registered" and "not on the computer" are two entirely different things... not registered ever would need to be a NEW application .... a previously registered vehicle with no V5c(w) would need to have an mot with its existing number displayed. The testing station usually give you a paper mot which you send to the DVLA. Not on the computer usually means its not been taxed for a while or sorned. You were lucky using an old V5 or you applied some time ago, applications have changed and the blue V5's are not recognised when changing keepers......


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