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Post by Roger Pennington » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:13 pm

Bear in mind that, with the exception of the engine, gearbox, and instrument cluster, they are all the identical car mechanically, so don't think that the Ti is a vastly superior car in all respects - the thing you're buying with the Ti is just faster acceleration. Handling and roadholding are the same.
I bought a 1600 CVH because it was going to be my daily driver, so I wanted something simple and uncomplicated, and it has filled that role since 2002 :) (and over a *very* high mileage)

But in the end of course, it'll be your car, so it's your decision! :D


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Post by Corky » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:35 pm

You’ve no sense of adventure Phil.

Don’t listen to Mr 1300 CVH :lol: , get yourself a Ti :wink:

A project is a project. Nothing difficult about breathing life into the Nissan CA18ET. Fault diagnosis can be difficult awkward, but worth it in the end.

Edit:- changed 2nd difficult to awkward. Don’t know what I was thinking. Must’ve been something to do with the free bar I was enjoying at the time of posting :lol: .... and I’m 2hrs ahead of the UK at present.
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Post by CNHSS1 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:54 pm

CVH cars have the advantage of the designed in Ford incontinence for oil, so all things after the fan will be liberally doused in dirty oil, something some owners seem to like :?

Nissan = rarely goes wrong, and often only due to the reliant bits it was loosely attached to rather than any design faults of Japanese origin, but as Corky says more expensive to repair and needs a more methodical approach for diagnosis than a carbed engine

I loved my old CVH too, but whilst a good workhorse they arent as sparkling in terms of performance against a modern car, BUT do cover the ground very well, torquey and fun :D

Except RRs 1300, that's just lame... :lol:


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Post by Turner998 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:22 pm

Hi Steve. Where are you? I am in Leeds and new to these cars also.

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Post by binlicker » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:48 pm

Thanks for all the advise. I can now see there is 2 types of SS1 owners one that likes the speed and thrill of the 1800ti and then the other who likes the car and not really bothered what engine so long as its reliable and fun. Still looking, and all engines considered. I like Corky's matter of fact attitude regarding the 1800 engine and I'am sure I can pick is brains if the needs be. Craig I live in Brighouse the place where the band comes from. Thanks again Steve



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Post by CNHSS1 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:54 pm

All SS1 owners, irrespective of engine size and make, are united by the fact we all need to go to Spec Savers :lol:


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Post by binlicker » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:45 pm

Spec savers here's me thinking you guys were a classy bunch, now I know you are just like me 1 step from inco pads. Steve



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Post by Corky » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:53 pm

They’re not the best looking Scims, but are by a margin the most fun (IMHO of course, but I have owned most of the others).

Not had a 1600 SS1, but I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be at least 95% of the fun of a Ti :lol: :w

I’ve had several CVH powered Fords back when they were new cars. They weren’t too bad back in the day.

Regarding the Ti, all gaskets and oils seals are available, as too are new injectors and electrical parts. You just need to know where to look and have alternative part numbers at the ready. Not expensive either!


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Post by scimjim » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:58 pm

There is a third type of SS1 owner :D

Ti, 1300CVH, 1400K series, 1600CVH - No, I don’t have a white stick to go with the black lab :mrgreen:
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Post by reliant-reviver » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:22 pm

I have always pitched the 1600 as the gateway SS1. Most abundant, simple and good all round.

Practice what I preach, first SS1 was a non galvanized 16 in fabulous condition, followed by a galvanized 1300 that was straightforward to return to the road, followed by an 1800ti that turned out to be quite rotten, the suspension tore apart and the clutch lasted a summer.

As I said, outright performance, go for the 1800ti if you can find a good one. Otherwise the CVH cars (can) make the right noises and certainly provide plenty of danger free fun.


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Post by Corky » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:33 pm

Jim is definitely a 3rd type of owner. He owns a third of all the Scimitars ever built :lol:

Though most of them are probably on his shelves


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Post by scimjim » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:46 pm

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Post by mn757 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:08 pm

A word in defence of a non galvanized 1300cc (the runt of the litter), I might be lucky but mine shows nothing but mild surface rust, it's great fun to drive even with 1300cc and yes it's not the fastest thing in the world but still engaging. It's cheaper to tax and insure. I've driven far quicker machinery which have been far less fun. I've not driven an 1800 (yet) but have driven a well maintained low mileage 1600 and it doesn't feel that much different to the 1300 for me.

I've just had my engine out to sort an oil leak (!) and could have put a 1600 in but didn't see the need to. The only thing I would say is with a 1300 you really want a 5 speed box which thankfully mine has had.

Just my opinion, but the 1300 is still a worthy car.


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Post by siw1800 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:14 pm

Disclaimer, My Mother had a 1300, then a TI then a Sabre Turbo, which I told her I would buy when she sold it (while we were on the test drive).

She loved the 1300 but found it gutless. She loved her TI and Sabre. I think the ss1 is ugly, the TT is the ugliest and the Sabre is a wet dream.

We did lots of mileage in them, the 1300 was by far cheaper to run The TI service book recommends an oil change every 3,000 yes, 3k with Mobile 1. So not cheap, but when I sold it, I told the buyer (on this forum) the engine was perfect. he felt he had to check, and then told me it was like new.

The Sabre is quiet rare in TI form, but if you can find one, that will add to value in the future but I suspect, you may never want to sell it.

Just my opinion from experience.

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Post by Alan SS1 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:37 pm

We (well ) I bought a project 1600 and found it 'adequate' performance wise, sure others will claim it's not.
but middle of road for performance and it can be a lazy drive. (sure the car can handle better than I'm prepared to push, and anyway as you are close to road it seems faster , keeps you in one piece? as no traction / stability etc to keep you out of trouble

I did once briefly try an early 1800 and almost s**t meself when planted the foot in 2nd or 3rd!!!

I'd imagine the 1300 to need to be kept 'on the cam' assuming the lumpy bits are still present? as it is down a few horses

parts for CVH are easy, (and the lack of oil tightness does help keep rust at bay :wink: ) not any really 'complex' electrickery issues. I only see what the turbo guys suffer from if the turbo is 'past it's best'

beauty, eye of beholder etc and you can't see much of it from behind the wheel
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