SOLD SOLD SOLD! 1971 Scimitar SE5A for sale, manual transmission, excellent example

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SOLD SOLD SOLD! 1971 Scimitar SE5A for sale, manual transmission, excellent example

Post by Mat3154 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:05 pm

Reliant Scimitar SE5A for sale, registered in 1971 making it a very early ‘A’. It has manual transmission with overdrive, which is working perfectly. It has roughly 68700 miles on the clock with an oil and filter change 1000 miles ago. Engine runs and pulls very well, with oil pressure being bang-on what it should be.

The previous owner had Queensbury Road Garage give the car a good going over and recommend a cooling system upgrade and worn suspension replacement. They proceeded to fit an uprated engine fan and Spax coilovers. The car has never over heated on me, even when sat in stationary city centre traffic on a hot summers day. More recent work includes a new alternator (from Graham Walker), new rear wheel bearing and half shaft seals and an engine coolant flush and refill. The chassis is solid and has been previously wax oiled. The car has a stainless steel fuel tank and a stainless steel exhaust fitted.

The bodywork is in very good condition. The previous owner had the car resprayed with all door and window seals replaced. He also had a heated front windscreen fitted supplied by the Scimitar owners club. The wheels are good but not perfect – a little rust is coming through the chrome in places, but does not detract. Other chrome work including the bumpers is very good. A factory fitted tow bar is present, but I’m sure could be easy removed if not your thing!

The interior is in excellent condition, with only one or two small signs of very minor wear. The plastic dash has no cracks and original steering wheel is fitted. All switches and dials work. Door cards are a touch warped, but could be easily restored. A rare rear parcel shelf is fitted. Headlining is in great condition with no tears or sagging (I suspect it has been replaced at some point).

The car comes with a comprehensive history file going back to the mid 1970’s! Although never having been taken off the road for a complete restoration, it has clearly been owned by a succession of enthusiasts and has had the necessary work done when required to keep it in the excellent condition that it is. I had kept an eye out for one of these on and off for about a decade and this example was well worth the wait.

The car comes with a few boxes of assorted spare parts, which are included in the sale.

Selling for £5495. The car is located in Taunton, Somerset.
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Post by Scimher » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:09 am

What a lovely, original looking example........Good luck with the sale. I'm sure that it won't be hanging around for long.



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Post by Brucky » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:14 pm

Nice car love the color, best of luck with the sale.



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Post by Mat3154 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:46 pm

Thanks gents! Is a reluctant sale, but alas needs must.



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Post by Lowbrook » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:30 pm

Hi, If it assists anyone this was my car for many years from 2004 until 2011 from memory, it was purchased from a gentleman who had it dry stored in his garage for 20 years. It was like a time warp car when I purchased it. I had the car trailered to a Scimitar specialist in Leicestershire, who's name now escapes me. He went though the car from top to bottom and re commissioned the car for me. This was just fluid changes everywhere and re commissioning of the brakes and seals and all new rubber hoses. The car was then MOT'ed and I drove it home. It was totally original in every respect. I can confirm the rear boot cover is original. I found some Princess Anne Alloys and fitted these. The car never missed a beat, and was serviced by Terry Cox who was local to me every year, irrespective of mileage which some years was under 100 miles. The car was waxoiled regularly, indeed Terry drilled the chassis and filled all of the members with Waxoil. During the time of my ownership the car had never had any welding done and the chassis was perfect as was the interior and the paint work was totally unmarked with no crazing anywhere. The car was always garaged and never taken out in the wet. The car did used to have an original Vinyl roof fitted when I owned it, I can only assume it has been resprayed as the Vinyl roof has now been removed. Clearly I don't know the condition of the car now, however she does still look in outstanding condition. I am tempted to have her back, but I really want a Scimitar SE5 having owner a 5a previously.
I hope that the car finds a new owner and hope my previous knowledge helps any perspective buyer.



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Post by scimjim » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:48 pm

Welcome to the forum :D

If you’re still local, the Gloucester noggin meets on the second Tuesday of every month at the Royal William in Cranham (just a few miles from Terry Cox/Scimpart as was) if you’d like to pop along?

I’d buy it back if I were you though - it’s a lovely looking car and obviously has a good history and if it goes to a dealer, it’ll be advertised for a lot more!


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Post by philhoward » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:21 pm

Would the specialist in Leicestershire be Iain Daniels per chance?


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Post by Lowbrook » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:17 am

Honestly I can't remember if it was Ian, he was just off the A42 from memory, I know I passed all of the receipts for any work carried out on the car to my buyer and I assume this is still with the car. I also collected parts for the car when I saw them for sale in good condition, even a spare gearbox, I assume these too are still with the car as well as it never needed any major parts fitting.
I would like to get back into a Scimitar and perhaps I need to go to the Gloucester Noggin to become enthused again, I used to manage the Hereford and Worcester Noggin until numbers dwindled to myself and another, at which point we lost interest in the meetings.



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Post by Joe. » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:27 am

There are some details on this car that are not quite right for a car from 1971, They could all be explainable and do not necessarily add up to being a problem, But they are things I would want to be aware of and check out as a buyer.

Some observations:

This car clearly has the dipstick under the exhaust manifold, suggesting it has a later type engine not normally fitted in a 1971 car,

When Reliant started fitting the later version of the Essex they also changed the air cleaner housing. The inner shelf next to the wiper motor was redesigned to improve clearance (only later 5a's have this 1973 onwards.) I've had two cars from 1972 and neither of them have this.

Reliant also altered the center console when the 3 rod gearbox was introduced and the gear stick is in a slightly different place, Round gear stick gator and that style center console suggest to me this car may also have the later 3 rod gearbox fitted.

To me the bodyshell and engine appear to imply this could be a late 5a, wearing the number plates from an earlier car. I would want to carefully check if the log book and chassis number actually match. Its possible this car has been ringed at some point in its life.

Naturally there may be history to back up these changes. But in my opinion its not as origonal as some posters are implying.

My apologies to the seller I doubt that this is what you wanted to hear.



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Post by scimjim » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:49 am

A check of the stamped chassis number on the upright would prove your theory. Unfortunately there are dozens of examples thanks to the free Historic VED (at least it’s not an SE6a on a pre 73 reg!)

Here is BRL35K with the vinyl roof - owner listed as Mr Ian Houghton on sporting-reliants.com

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Post by philhoward » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:09 am

scimjim wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:49 am
owner listed as Mr Ian Houghton on sporting-reliants.com
That's Lowbrook, :)

There have equally been examples of bitsa (made one from the best bits of two) cars which are genuine - one not so long back IIRC where the guy who actually did the restoration had to prove it by pictures (one late 5a with a rotten chassis and the good chassis car with a poor body). The ultimate proof is, as Jim says, the stamped number.

Assuming that it is what it says it is, then it' looks to be a body, engine and gearbox swap as the gearlever position indicates the 3-rod gearbox, as does the red pipe off the clutch master cylinder - as well as the later seat pattern and door pulls.


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Post by Stupopt1 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:00 am

Whatever it is it looks great.
is it only me but I quite like the vinyl roof , I think it suites the car well.


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Post by drcdb15 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:16 pm

Stupopt1 wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:00 am
Whatever it is it looks great.
is it only me but I quite like the vinyl roof , I think it suites the car well.
Many cars' appearance can be markedly affected by the paint colour and finish, imho. The old Ford late eighties Cougar was a case in point, that looked absolutely dreadful in some colours, but absolutely stunning in others. It is a mark of the genius of the Scimitar design, imho, that it looks good in almost any type of finish - not just colour, but the two-tone mid stripes, coffee and cream, vinyl, top colour over lower, solid or metallic, body colour or contrast on light surrounds/bumpers etc and so on. I think that other inspired designs, like the Fiat 500 and Beetle for instance, share this feature.


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Post by Mat3154 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:01 pm

Fascinating to hear from a previous owner! Thank you Lowbrook for giving an insight into the car's past and what you had done to it whilst in your ownership. I have a folder full of MOT's, receipts, etc. so should have all the documentation for what you had done. Have been meaning to put it all in order for about the last 2 years, but never mind! Something for the new owner to play with when the time comes. Unfortunately I didn't receive any large spares with the car such as the gear box you mentioned, but have a couple of boxes of small interior, exterior, electrical, etc parts.

Interesting debate over the true age of the car - the V5 says it was registered in December 1971, but have never checked whether numbers match up. Am away from the car at the moment but will certainly have a look when I'm back out of curiosity.



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