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Re: Rat Rod (now out of the garage)

Post by scimjim » Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:23 am

8 Ball isn't particularly early though.


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Re: Rat Rod (now out of the garage)

Post by Gillsfan » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:06 am

The second relay has brown, white and black wires

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Re: Rat Rod (now out of the garage)

Post by toomanysabres » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:44 am

That has to be for the old 11AC alternator. W1=white, W2=black, C1=brown, C2=brown/purple. Brown/Purple now not used.


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Re: Rat Rod (now out of the garage)

Post by Gillsfan » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:54 pm

Thank you. Do I still need it? I've had a look at the coupe V6 wiring diagram on the NE noggin site which seems to be the best match to mine. As Jim has alluded to a combination for the car being an early 5 (number 104) so slightly grey area wiring wise, PO bodged and alterations/repairs I've done all mean the wiring is straight forward in Rat Rod.

So what I know. Wiring modified by PO for later style alternator. Ammeter replaced with voltmeter wiring still present. Wired for remote solenoid starter motor. I currently have a later style starter fitted but I have a early one on its way to me (from lukeyboy, currently at Jims' I believe).


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Re: Rat Rod (now out of the garage)

Post by scimjim » Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:01 pm

yep - starter is at the workshop. Do you need it posting down?


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Re: Rat Rod (now out of the garage)

Post by Gillsfan » Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:03 pm

I'm not in a rush Jim, the starter fitted is yours if I remember rightly. I'm happy to swap next man night.


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Re: Rat Rod (now out of the garage)

Post by toomanysabres » Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:05 pm

The relay can stay. It might come in handy if you need an ignition switched source of +12volts. eg for an electronic ignition unit. Take a feed from pin C2 after removing the brown/purple.


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Re: Rat Rod (now out of the garage)

Post by Gillsfan » Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:54 pm

As it happens I have an electronic ignition in the garage ready to fit at some point. Thank you.


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Re: Rat Rod (now out of the garage)

Post by Gillsfan » Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:32 am

Ok so I've moved house which has kept me busy for the last couple of months and is likely to for a while yet. That said Rat Rod has managed the 5 miles drive from my old place without incident. the only fly in the ointment was the brakes which where on or off with nothing much in-between. there has always been a lack of feel which I've put down to the elderly pads. So my question is which pads to go for, what is the current thinking regards the best pads? Rat Rod might be pressed into action soon as I've been a naughty boy and had a couple of parking tickets at work meaning I have to surrender my car pass for 3 months :cry: I might get away with just handing in the Hondas car pass and drive Rat Rod to work (good job I renewed it anticipating driving it soon). The drive to my new place has given me confidence that once all the lights work and the pads are change there is a good chance of passing a MOT.


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Re: Rat Rod (now out of the garage)

Post by philhoward » Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:38 am

Despite the health concerns, I would still happily use a pair of NOS Asbestos pads (crop up from time to time on eBay), or a decent brand like Girling, TRW, Ferodo - but that's me.

If I were you, I'd try a fluid change and don't forget to exercise the caliper pistons at the same time. It could just be the pads sticking and not sliding in the caliper - a strip down and reassembly of all 4 brakes won't hurt so you know everything is OK.


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Re: Rat Rod (now moved house)

Post by Gillsfan » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:54 pm

I afraid I'm back (again) hopefully for good this time. So here we go, when I moved Rat Rod the 5 miles from my old place the brakes where terrible. I've bought new pads/shoes, while fitting the shoes to the port aft the inside of the drum was covered in a black sticky substance. I'm assuming it's brake fuild and brake dust, and therefore assuming the wheel cylinder is shot (new pair on order)

Now a photo to strike fear into the hearts of veterans of my attempts at wiring.


I only had brake lights and port indicators. After fiddling about I now have starboard indicators. Now comes the problem the headlights/side lights don't work at all. Investigating the switch revealed no supply to the switch after investigation I discovered a purple wire with 12 v which has continuity with the purple 12v supply at the indicator/main beam stork. When I connect the purple wire to the switch and turn the switch on, it loses 12v. Turn the switch off and the 12v are back. I bypassed the switch to rule it out, same problem. I used a different 12 v supply and got panel lights ( mine are wired to come on with the side lights). Now what the blazes is going on?

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Re: Rat Rod (back again)

Post by hylton1806 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:09 pm

Nice to see you back Steve, sorry I can not offer any advice on your electrical problems but your car looks very much like mine(up on axle stands)but mine has no engine in at the moment :(
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Re: Rat Rod (back again)

Post by Gillsfan » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:14 pm

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Fortunately Rat Rod is only up on axle stands so I can get at the wiring underneath.


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Re: Rat Rod (back again)

Post by Gillsfan » Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:10 pm

Small update. I've been back out and had a fresh look. The purple wire (which was connected to the switch) was a red herring. I found the correct brown and white supply connected it up and I now have dipped beam. Still no lights at the back, side lights or main beam.


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Re: Rat Rod (b*%§# brakes)

Post by Gillsfan » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:06 pm

Help please, what am I doing wrong. I've changed both fear wheel cylinders, along with fixing new shoes and pads. I've been trying to bleed the brakes for an hour. I've been using this brake bleeding tool.

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Seems to draw fluid from the front brakes ok, but the back is a different story. I pump away on the handle to achieve suction, turn the bleed nipple it seems to draw air from the brakes, but now matter how long I do it for no fluid or noticeable drop in the reservoir. Help please, I'm off in a sulk to buy split pins.


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