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Post by Steve_S » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:24 pm

So been having a few hours in the garage took the front suspension off the n/s and I found this
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So I'm going to assume this is not standard ?
The car has always sat up at the front that pic dont really show it very well
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And can anybody tell me if the length of the shocker mounting is correct for the front? thats 16 and a half inch measured out side to outside of the bar.
also does the spring on a standard shock go so close to the bottom similar to the one in the picture ?



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Post by scimjim » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:51 pm

Definitely added later :D

16.5” (about 16” eye to eye?) sounds a bit big (and you have an extra inch or more with the welded on brackets) - but it’s spring free length that affects ride height, more than the damper length.


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Post by Steve_S » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:19 pm

So after doing a bit of research I introduced the shock mounts to my little friend 4.5 grinder they didn't put up much of a fight :lol: Just a bit of tidying with the welder
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Post by Steve_S » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:06 pm

So Iv took the whole of the front suspension off found a couple of problems one being looks at some point like its been shunted into a curb or something
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So a bit of hot spanner and hammer and anvil got it back into shape.

The other thing I noticed was how tight the trunions were when clamped up in the lower wishbones. the trunion should be able to swivel when bolted up but the lower wishbone arms have been powder coated from new ? or by an old owner but because of the thickness of the powder coat on the face of the wishbone arms, the tubes which go through the top hat bushes arnt able to swivel because the lip of the top hat bush is crushed against the face of the arm.
So I set the arm up in my mill and have skimmed the powder coat of and square the faces up.
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Post by Steve_S » Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:18 pm

H guys can anybody tell me the dimension of the lower wishbone brackets or point me were I can find it
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Post by Steve_S » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:21 pm

Guess not then :(



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Post by scimjim » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:04 pm

I have a couple on the shelf I can measure next weekend - but surely they should be the same size as the bush metal centre (and will compress to that size when you torque the nut)?


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Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:38 am

I'd agree with Jim, most of the brand new replacements that I've seen seem to have a slight "splay" to them, presumably to allow for that compression? Also worth noting that they are normally available off the shelf (in a stronger form than original) from the main Scimitar suppliers.

Also I note that that's an Se6-on bracket, they are handed so it's important that you get the correct ones for the appropriate side of the car, dependant on whether you have PAS or manual steering.


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Post by David Tew » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:49 pm

Steve_S wrote:
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the tubes which go through the top hat bushes arnt able to swivel because the lip of the top hat bush is crushed against the face of the arm.
Having changed a few of these over the years I've found I usually have to skim the lip of the top hat bush slightly to get a snug (but not tight) fit. An aftermarket issue as there was no problem with the bushes supplied by BL.


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Post by Roger Pennington » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:30 pm

And also, if you're not especially familiar with the setup of trunnions, then there's a "How To" guide here in this thread


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Post by Steve_S » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:42 pm

So i have started to re assemble the front suspension but have run across a problem
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Im going to assume a billy bodge it has in the passed assembled the brackets on the chassis wrong but which one is wrong ? I guessing the front one from looking at a pic in the workshop manual.
Oh and its not me as iv only took the o/s brackets off.
You would have thought who ever assembled the suspension having to force it in should have raise an alarm it was wrong.
And the car has power steering
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Post by Roger Pennington » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:00 pm

Steve_S wrote:
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So i have started to re assemble the front suspension but have run across a problem
Those brackets are certainly wrong! :shock:
That's the RHS, but you've not fitted the rack - can you confirm if it's PAS or manual?


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Post by Roger Pennington » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:10 pm

if it's PAS, the right hand bracket (as you look at it) is the one that's correct (ie both should have their fixing bolts at the rear)

if it's manual, the left hand bracket (as you look at it) is the one that's correct (ie both should have their fixing bolts at the front)

and of course the same applies on the other side.


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Post by Steve_S » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:01 pm

Roger Pennington wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:00 pm
Steve_S wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:42 pm
So i have started to re assemble the front suspension but have run across a problem
Those brackets are certainly wrong! :shock:
That's the RHS, but you've not fitted the rack - can you confirm if it's PAS or manual?
Power steering
I thank you for the info



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Post by Steve_S » Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:08 pm

Ok another question/problem the top and bottom shocker mounting holes are 5/8" and have top hat bushes fitted reducing the hole size to 1/2".
Is this normal or a mod by somebody ? As the way its been assembled has spread the mounting uprights
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