Ben's SS1 - SSF novice sprint car

Post by **Benc** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:43 pm

Right then here goes....

Bought this off Mr Cork and planning to enter the whatever rssoc spint series in 2018

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Got a list of jobs to do including replacing the otter switch.

So while I'm at it going to flush and change coolant, first novice q is what type of anti freeze goes in an 1800ti??

Cheers

Ben

Post by **swoakes** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:46 pm

The blue stuff Ben; we always buy the pre-mixed stuff for about £5 for 5L.

I was chatting to Josh about your purchase ealier.

You must get the car to a Sprint next year

Aintree is a great first venue; only 3 corners but fast

Loads of runs to. Next on the list should by Ty Croes

Good luck with the car

Post by **CNHSS1** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:22 pm

Good luck with the car, and welcome to the merry band of Compies

Post by **MikeyBikey** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:27 pm

Yes, commiserations it's a pointy but honestly, competing is the best thing ever. Looking forward to seeing you next season

Post by **Corky** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:31 pm

Looking forward to seeing how you get on with it Ben.

I was very glad that I found a buyer that can actually fit into it, those seats aren't very generous

............which is why the car was sold with 'em still in it

Post by **Benc** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:11 pm

Cheers Guys

Looking forward to using in anger

Here is my to do list so far
1.Front indicator lamp holder broke- temporary repair made so Steve if you have a spare let me know how much
2. No plate lights - bad earth sorted
3. Sort seat so moves - done
4. Drain coolant fit new otter switch - done
5. Re wire fan via relay and otter and override - done
6. Sort hardtop brackets, seals and prepare paint hardtop black
7. Fit fuel filter - done
8. Fit new speedo mile counter u/s - done
9. weld in cross tube for harness roll hoop - done
10. Modify trailer ramps and test fit into trailer - done
11. Oulton park track day

done
12. Adjust cowling so full beam lights stay on - done
13. Timing strut - done
14. Refit fire extinguisher pull cables - done
15. Rear towing eye - done
16. Front towing eyes - done
17. Swirl pot and pump wire through relay - on hold see how new tank fairs - new tank seems ok
18. Fuel tank - done
19. Cage - done
20. Lower floor - done
21. Move fire extinguisher to floor - done
22. Rear wheel bearing wait for mot as could be ok
23. Wrap earth lead yellow

Hopefully will take it for a blast at weekend so might find a few more things to do..

Post by **efi_sprintgte** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:28 pm

Welcome and good luck!

Post by **Corky** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:20 pm

I’ve got a spare indicator Ben. I can’t remember if they’re handed, but I’ve got both sides available. Which side do you need?

I can drop one in the post on Monday.

Jhdelta · Post by **Jhdelta** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:09 am

with ref to number 9

MSA spec harness tube - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-5-38-1mm-CD ... Sw9N1VvMD1

full details in the blue book here - https://www.msauk.org/assets/bluebook20 ... ow-res.pdf

Post by **BigBobPilot** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:17 pm

I hope you have fun with it.

I don't know what competition driving you've done before, but the best advice is to get as much competition seat time as possible. As long as a car is basically sound, with no major issues, then you will just go faster with more practice. Resisting making big changes allows you to get used to the car and get consistency too. Being able to compare times with fellow competitors also gives you an idea of what to aim for and you can ask advice of them too.

Once you know what the car does, it should be easier to gauge the affect of any changes you do make.

Post by **Benc** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:02 pm

Hi Steve
Passenger side please, pm me ref price

JH thanks for the links really helpful

Ben total novice except a couple of track days over 5 years ago but planning another

Been out in the car today over tops towards Huddersfield was good fun

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A previous previous owner had disconnected the otter switch and wired to just a switch in the cabin. Also fitted a bigger fan.

Temp gauge mostly stayed in the middle but with some heavy right foot got to nearly the red so switched fan on.

When got home and cooled down dropped the coolant, fitted a new otter switch from QRG flushed and filled system. The new otter switch comes on when the red warning light starts to flash and goes off 10 seconds before the light has gone off.... is this normal??

I will be relaying the fan and a manual override/ otter to control

Cheers all
Ben

Post by **scimjim** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:37 pm

Sounds like you’re missing the inline resistor for the temp gauge. Check with an IR temp gun.

Post by **Old and Slow** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:47 pm

Item 3. above:
I don't know about sprinting, but for rallying you are not allowed to have movable seats, HRCR suggests putting a jubilee clip around the mechanism once you've got them into the best position, to lock them in place.

Post by **Old and Slow** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:52 pm

Also, re: the fan operation and the flashing red light, I know nothing about the SS1 circuitry, but I imagine that the light is switched by a separate circuit, so there could be a lag between the otter switch reaching its "off" temperature when the fan stops, and the engine block getting cool enough to switch off the light sensor. Perhaps?

Post by **Benc** » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:59 pm

Cheers Jim I will borrow the thermal image camera from work next week what is the stat open temperature?

I've looked on Peter Freemans wiring diagram and think w15 is the led for high engine temp can't see from the diagram how it is switched on though, is it from T6 into the ecu?