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Post by manny » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:21 am

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Do check your rear trailing arms to be sure one isn't giving way. Think it would be alarmingly obvious if so, but while you are there.

The Monroe rear damper / spring units are generally very good, so if you have a fully functioning replacement you could simply swap that in and carry on enjoying the car. Otherwise a few hundred quid spent with your preferred supplier for a new set of rear shocks and springs should sort it.

Re the front end, half an inch difference between sides suggests it's almost certainly time to look at replacing what is likely the original front springs.
As already mentioned I supply uprated replacements which have been fitted by countless people with much improvement reported. details here viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7221&start=75
Good day,
the arms seem okay and there was no obvious difference between the two, the swap seems to have made a positive difference, i did bounce the rear a few times on the driveway and can now get my hand between the wheel and arch - but i have not driven the car yet and remeasured on an even surface.

I have two sets of spare front springs at hand, so will try one of those first- though they may not be better.
i did see your spring thread , I will probably contact you soon for standard springs , unless uprated ones are not too harsh for normal road use?
My daughter now wants this car instead of the 190E , so i will need start spending some money on it :D
I will report the measurements later on

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Post by reliant-reviver » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:53 pm

Only mildly uprated at 250lbs Vs 180lbs original. Not had anyone complain of a harsh ride, think of it more like tightening up from standard. Worth pointing out that most SS1s are well below standard now!


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Post by reliant-reviver » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:12 pm

But if your daughter is intent on driving it, please the first bit of money you should be spending is on a set of new tyres. I note from the pictures on the same axle one old style looking continental and a khumo powermax.

I like saving money and getting the most out of something, but 150 buys you a set of good rubber online. No brainer.


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Post by manny » Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:58 pm

reliant-reviver wrote:
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But if your daughter is intent on driving it, please the first bit of money you should be spending is on a set of new tyres. I note from the pictures on the same axle one old style looking continental and a khumo powermax.

I like saving money and getting the most out of something, but 150 buys you a set of good rubber online. No brainer.
Not to worry she's 13 at the moment...



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Post by manny » Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:19 am

Good day all,

my rear springs arrived from QRG ( top service- its the first time i have used them) , i am planning to use my tie down straps to try and compress the springs...which is not the best plan i agree....
i have solid steel rod which go through the shock eyelet and then feed the straps around and and down through the springs...

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Post by philhoward » Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:09 am

Either get yourself a set of spring compressors or find a friendly garage who does...please! They're only £20 from Machine Mart..one in Great Barr and one in Wolves.


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Post by Alan SS1 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:48 pm

manny wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:19 am
Good day all,

my rear springs arrived from QRG ( top service- its the first time i have used them) , i am planning to use my tie down straps to try and compress the springs...which is not the best plan i agree....
i have solid steel rod which go through the shock eyelet and then feed the straps around and and down through the springs...

Ta

Manny
I'm with Phil, you can do that with front coil-overs on a Regal, but not rears!

I cheat as I have a pair of steel flanges which catch the edge of the spring and the bottom of the shock-absorber.


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Post by manny » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:35 pm

philhoward wrote:
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Either get yourself a set of spring compressors or find a friendly garage who does...please! They're only £20 from Machine Mart..one in Great Barr and one in Wolves.
i have a set of compressors i used on the TR - but suspect\read the hooks may be too large?, will try those first and then plan B look for a garage etc.

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Post by manny » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:50 pm

Good day all

well after confirming the spring compressors i had were too big,failing to find a garage ( bike\car) that could help, i modified two scissors jacks by welding four locating tabs, two for the coil spring and two for the lower seat groove....and by winding about an inch each side... i got the springs changed in less than an hour.
Going to install them after dinner...will report back soon :D ...

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Post by reliant-reviver » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:57 pm

It is interest do you know what springs you are fitting to the rear in terms of length and rate?


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Post by manny » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:14 pm

reliant-reviver wrote:
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It is interest do you know what springs you are fitting to the rear in terms of length and rate?
Good day ,

the rears are SS1 'standard' as ordered and supplied new by QRG...does that help\ clarify...?
Length seems the same as the old that i took off, i did note the newer ones were harder to compress ..just having a cuppa and then to swap the units.

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Post by manny » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:44 pm

Good day,

.. well i installed the new springs ...and the car drives better ..feels better planted...but visually there is a still a difference between the two sides.. :? :?
I will re-measure tomorrow in the same car park at work....i am also booked in for a MOT ,so will ask the chap to scrutinise the rear suspension..

Oh well...it feels better to drive now..cant wait for the new front springs to be installed

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Post by manny » Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:37 am

Good day,.

:( no change at the rear....there is still an inch difference ....what next??

Boo Hoo

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Post by scimjim » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:31 am

No mention of measurements after you swapped the rear springs left to right? Did you measure the compressed and free length of the springs? If the fault moved sides it’ll be the rears, if it only changed it slightly it could be fronts.


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Post by manny » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:52 am

scimjim wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:31 am
No mention of measurements after you swapped the rear springs left to right? Did you measure the compressed and free length of the springs? If the fault moved sides it’ll be the rears, if it only changed it slightly it could be fronts.
Good day

the springs on the car are the new ones from QRG, so same spec each side, the non-compressed length matched the old ones i removed, i will swap the sides later this week...

Ta

Manny

The car no longer grounds on speed bumps- so a positive step ..



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