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Post by willholderogri » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:30 pm

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Just a two part epoxy. Araldite.

Still toying with idea of de-badging it, for the simple look. But filling the holes and painting it is holding me back currently.

Put new black vinyl on the B-Posts as well, used a Evostik contact adhesive for that, but did not remove the rear windows, just pushed the vinyl edges under the rubber seals. The old ones had gone all 'ripply' and were very brittle.

Got some work on the Nose to do this summer to repair some cracks, where it probably had a low speed bump before I bought it. Glad I had some practise glassing the bonnet last year.

Steve
I have left some of my badges off as well .love to know the method for fitting the vinyl though.
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Post by Rev Light » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:16 pm

The vinyl was just fixed with contact adhesive. Evostic in a can, applied with a brush. Got to be careful, got mine slightly misaligned. Best glue the edge that need to be tucked under the rear window seal first. once secure trim and glue the rest. I did not pull my windows.

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Post by willholderogri » Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:30 pm

Thanks Steve I will have a go


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Post by Rev Light » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:49 pm

So after the French trip we had an issue with low compression on one of the cylinders on my engine. Lots of vapour from the filler cap when up to temperature and more from the breather. So we pulled the head off the engine on the poorly side. There was really nothing much to report. No burnt valve, and although the bore was marked, it was not marked enough to really account for the low compression.

So we put it back together with a new head to see if things had improved. Which, alas, it had not. Ho hum.

Looks like a full strip. All the Pistons were + 30. Looks like the rings are jiggered on this bore.

I need to look at my spare engine to see what size the Pistons are. Perhaps we can use one of the engines as a basis for a rebuild.

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Post by Rev Light » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:01 pm

What we did discover was the very poor inlet manifold gasket, which was starting to disintegrate. Little copper bit mis-located, etc.

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Post by Rev Light » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:04 pm

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Post by gtcse8 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:33 pm

NOTHING NEW THERE THEN :roll:

I Refuse to fit the OE type of inlet gasket because of this EXACT problem. :evil:
The casting holes in the engine are all a lot larger than the restricting gasket holes at the rear of the engine??. :W :W
Been working on the 3l V6 for over 30 years now and most of the overheating problems show that the copper restriction plates are strangling the cooling system and actually blocking the water flow.
I ALWAYS open out the restricted rear waterway holes before fitting the inlet manifold, AND will not use the type with the copper restriction plates glued on as they are proven to move and close the holes completely.

I have BANGED on about this for ages now and PROGRESS should be made.
The INLET gasket is an HISTORIC design from when the ESSEX Engine was a DIESEL DESIGN for Stationary/boat/industrial use.
In that use the engine was cooled by the water the unit was floating on, and a larger radiator and cooling fan that could be fitted to a car.

We did away with slavery because it was WRONG, why keep fitting/using the WRONG gaskets :w

If no One listens to me and they have problems then TOUGH. :bh

Mad rant over with :dh


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Post by Rev Light » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:59 pm

On the plus side, my spare engine pistons seem to be +30's as well.

Best news I have had all day....

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Post by willholderogri » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:16 pm

gtcse8 wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:33 pm
NOTHING NEW THERE THEN :roll:

I Refuse to fit the OE type of inlet gasket because of this EXACT problem. :evil:
The casting holes in the engine are all a lot larger than the restricting gasket holes at the rear of the engine??. :W :W
Been working on the 3l V6 for over 30 years now and most of the overheating problems show that the copper restriction plates are strangling the cooling system and actually blocking the water flow.
I ALWAYS open out the restricted rear waterway holes before fitting the inlet manifold, AND will not use the type with the copper restriction plates glued on as they are proven to move and close the holes completely.

I have BANGED on about this for ages now and PROGRESS should be made.
The INLET gasket is an HISTORIC design from when the ESSEX Engine was a DIESEL DESIGN for Stationary/boat/industrial use.
In that use the engine was cooled by the water the unit was floating on, and a larger radiator and cooling fan that could be fitted to a car.

We did away with slavery because it was WRONG, why keep fitting/using the WRONG gaskets :w

If no One listens to me and they have problems then TOUGH. :bh

Mad rant over with :dh
so what gaskets are you using ?


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Post by gtcse8 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:57 am

willholderogri wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:16 pm
so what gaskets are you using

Standard gaskets with ALL the waterway restrictions removed/enlarged.
My OLD supply, which has now ceased trading, did not go to the trouble of putting the copper plates on either.
They just "Creep over the years and shut the water holes off, or in Joe Sully`s case from earlier this week, the glue or copper reacting with his coolant and Plugging the waterways, there are lots of cases of owners finding the copper plates blocking the water holes.
There are lots of cases of cars overheating and Scimitar owners seem to be paranoid about it, so why fit something that can trap air AND slow down the movement of coolant, the clue is in the name. :lol:


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Post by Rev Light » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:09 am

Of course the underlying issue might well be an ovalised bore, poorly aligned rings or just worn rings.

Jim felt that he detected a small amount of movement of the piston in the bore - only slightly more than the two pistons either side - which have good compression.

So the pistons will have to come out so that we can measure the bore up and down the cylinder.

What there is not, is any really deep gouges in the cylinder wall from broken rings. But there are some marks, just not enough to account for the lack of compression. Much of which, but not all, might be lost with a honing.

I have yet to seriously look or measure the bores on my spare engine, other that a cursory glance. But nothing leapt out at me as being a cause for concern.

We will have to see.

Nothing will happen in the short term as I will leave the car in storage whilst I investigate the spare engine. That way it is at least moveable. But at some point in the winter it will be engine out again......And lets not forget the failed overdrive unit.

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Post by Rev Light » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:53 pm

The only thing to report is that my spare engine is a rebuild and is also on +30 pistons. Which is a result. The bores still have their honing marks as well, so it has know here near the wear of my current engine. It does have a knock though, so it's time to strip it and try and see where the problem is. On holiday in Valleta at the moment, so it will be a while till there is any news. valleta is great, by the way.


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Post by gtcse8 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:15 pm

Steve Malta is a great place.
I`m bias as I was born near Mtarfa.
But it can be a "Marmite" Island, some places are rough, and some are wonderful.
The people are great, just likje the weather.
You must let me know what parts you still need/want.
Mark


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Post by Rev Light » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:04 pm

Went to the aerospace museum at TQali today, to see some old British aircraft, then on to Mdina. Day of rest tomorrow.

Mark, still going to need that overdrive we spoke about earlier and a new indicator stalk. Sort something out soon.


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