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Post by Corky » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:21 am

MikeyBikey wrote:
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Looking forward to seeing the end product.

Seeing all that spaghetti reminds me that we've got some mince in the fridge.........
And I thought the latest thing in Cheshire was to be vegan....
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Post by CNHSS1 » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:02 pm

Huge leap forward tonight with rear suspension, trailing arm mods done to offside, rosejoints fitted, just needs strapping adding and a captive nut welding to damper mount so you only need one spanner :). Chuffed to bits with the progress, BIG thanks to "Crusty the Learned" whom is ever so patient with me :lol: and i only injured him once tonight :oops: a falling trailing arm missed him, but caught the welder lead and the 13A plug leapt from the wall socket and whacked him on the foot! :shock: soooorrrrreeeee BC, but at least i didnt burn you with grinding sparks or the welder this week---real progress :lol:


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Post by philhoward » Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:00 am

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Post by Dcrosby13 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:50 am

Exciting stuff, what kind of adjustment do you have on the rear now?


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Post by CNHSS1 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:08 am

Adj toe and camber from the RJs basically an evolution of batmobile, just achieved in a slightly different way


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Post by barry_bryan » Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:05 pm

can we see it then or is it top secret ???


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Post by BigBobPilot » Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:50 pm

barry_bryan wrote:
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can we see it then or is it top secret ???
You have to keep some things for a competitive edge!


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Post by old bean » Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:57 pm

I do admire your motivation.

Obviously a motivated individual in work and play, but what's your take on the driving force behind it?

No pun or piss take intended, just a curious observation.



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Post by b.c.flat hat » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:04 am

old bean wrote:
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the driving force behind it?
The usual strange affection of wedges built in a shed that go fast, corner on rails an' stop like a politicians promises, plus three years withdrawal symptoms and the threat of the present tranche of young drivers breakin' 'is records!😎😁



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Post by CNHSS1 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:56 am

I have always loved Modsports, Silhouette racers, Suoer Saloons & Sports, the cars that Gerry Marshall and his peers drove. They were built in sheds, had oodles of power, big slicks and bodwork on steriods. When i started hilllcimbing, a few of these cars were on the hills too. Iain Daniels Big Bob GTE used to appear at my local hill, long before i knew Danny and i decided i wanted to build a small scim in the same vein. That led to Batmobile, a modpsorts-esque SS1.
Roll on a few years after Battys demise and i bough the Sabre. It was built by a friend, Stew Bramham, as a road car, and the plan was to use it on the road and track whilst building another racer. Time, young kids, a business and house move meant that didnt happen so the Sabre got progressively more track biased until i decided it would never go back on the road. Trouble was the engine was fantastic, but all the road car compromises meant it was pretty naff on track. That said i won the championship in 2014 in it, but that was because i started applying tweaks which others copied in following seasons.
2017 saw me last run the car in anger and i was getting more and more frustrated, having to drive around issues i knew i could (and had on Batmobile) engineered out. So i ripped the car apart and made a start. Progress was sparadic and very slow, basically its become a ground up build, but im doing the job right :D
Rceent motivation has been supplied by Ben 'Big Bob Pilot' Goughs build of a similar spec car for circuit racing in the revived modsports/super saloons race series by CSCC. This motivated me to make a renewed start on the car. In recent months, Brian BC Flat Hat Crouch has been my regular motivator, coming around and advising on best engineering practice to achieve the latest demon mod ive dreamed up. I have no engineering background or training, merely a 'how hard can it be' mentality and a reasonable grasp of fabrication.
The current plan is to have the car on 4 wheels again for the month end ( on course happily :D ) and then start on diff cradle mounting mods. Once done its bodywork and aero mods (couple of months :| ) then shipped off for wiring and dyno.

I would like to shake the car down at Curbs test days, probably to early to compete, maybe do an event by year end.

As BC has said, i miss the competition, the racing, the rush and my track record tally has dropped from 13 i think to 11, cant have that can i?? Some have stood for over 15 yrs. The Batmobile was a pioneering small scim, only Nick Ks Ss1 build and Darryl Crosby's yet to be completed ss1 come close, the Sabre will hopefully give them a run for their money.
As for younger guys such as Nick, DC and Josh being quicker than this old dog, its perfectly possible that could be the case, only time will tell :lol:
I was very competitive as a kid, but assumed that had passed as an adult, but late 20s when i started competing for fun, it came back in spades! Ive often been heard to say ' I aint here to make up the numbers!' Go hard, or go home! This has left me going beyond the track limits on occasion, but if you arent giving it your all, whats the point!!??

As for being secretive of mods, i dont believe i am, i have always been extremely open and helpful to all those interested in building fast small scims, from articles ive written for slicr, to photos and how-tos on forums, to emailing dozens of pics to helps those interested, but its rarely been reciprocated ( thanks to those that have of course---you know who you are 8) ). This is a competitive sport, so not all the very hard earned tweaks, mods and lessons are passed on freely, BUT i would never, ever suggest or give advice that was not safe, thats never gonna happen. My cars are always big on safety.

Anyway, there you go, the motivation for a small scim racer and racecar.
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Post by Dcrosby13 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:53 pm

Looking forward to seeing you out on track, some mods are best kept secret secret, all adds to the mystery 8) Batmobile persuaded me to buy an SS1 and is a dream/ hero car for me and you have been a massive help, if you ever want to know about anything we have done please just ask.


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Post by Dcrosby13 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:54 pm

Pretty chuffed to have a piece of the bat in the garage.


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Post by CNHSS1 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:12 pm

Glad the Batty was an inspiration for you DC, thats very kind 8)


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Post by CNHSS1 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:03 pm

Easier to mock up with spare cradle and empty diff case on the bench, complete diff is bloody heavy!
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Post by Crouchie_b » Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:44 am

Nice prep Mr Hughes!
Dad will be wearing toetectors in case you knock that off the bench! :lol:


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