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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by philhoward » Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:11 pm

Mine comes on between 90 and 92 degrees. Although I don't have the original engine fitted (now a GM X30XE), I still use the original radiator and Otter switch. I've tested the temperature with 3 gauges now (original Smiths, an aftermarket gauge setup and now VDO gauges) and they all agree to within 1 or 2 degrees.


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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by philhoward » Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:14 pm

As a matter of fact, I just looked back to the top of the previous page and found the words I wrote last time:
philhoward wrote:I think you're over-thinking the situation to find a problem that isn't there.

Although I don't have the Essex engine in mine anymore, I still use the standard radiator and switch. Fan comes on somewhere around 90-92 degrees (I'm using VDO gauges) engine temperature which is actually a bit early as I think mine has got a thermostat that isn't fully open until about 97 degrees anyway. I do, however, use a 1.4 bar (20psi) cap on the expansion tank (from a Triumph Stag IIRC) but that's what the donor engine had. I've tested the cooling system to 135 degrees (disconnected the fan) and no ill effects. Coolant is only a problem if it can boil - then it fails to extract heat from the engine sufficiently.


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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by AJL Electronics » Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:49 pm

The thermostat opens at 88C. Once the coolant is in the radiator, the fan needs to be failrly close behind it, so the Otter switch should operate at about the same temperature.


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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by Pepe » Mon May 08, 2017 7:50 pm

Hey guys,

after some months of silence here (...and dropping of the first page for a long time :shock: ) I have some bits of update.

After returning from Cuba vacation (that was AMAZING!) I was able to fix the broken Gearstickpivot. see pictures

I purchased a used gearbox ....
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Gearstick bases: Capri (straight) and Scimitar (bend):
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God bless - whole used stuff in good working order! Not only the gearstick but also all the gears and syncromesh rings. Reverse gears have suffered clearly, but maybe still usable or reversable on the shafts...
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And then!

A good drive out!

The first one really that was really relaxed. I simply knew everything will work :) I build good confidence in the car.

here are some Sunset pics near the Rhine north of Cologne on the old Roman road....so relaxing. Car pulled well... good torque...
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...almost forgot - while we are talking about relaxing:
Her are some ride impressions from Cuba. Amazing, what is (still) on the road there...
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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by scimjim » Mon May 08, 2017 10:05 pm

The gearstick shouldn't be bent as standard?


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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by Pepe » Thu May 25, 2017 11:30 am

Are you sure it is not bend on the 4 speed?

I am pretty sure a non-bend stick will have trouble in reverse as it interferes with the center console.


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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by scimjim » Thu May 25, 2017 3:49 pm

difficult to be 100% sure but I think there's two bellhousings for the four speed and you may have the wrong one?

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And that gearstick doesn't seem to be bent?


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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by Pepe » Fri May 26, 2017 12:33 pm

Bend Gearstick is original as it came of the car.

The Hole position i nthe body also hasn't been enlarged towards the rear. It is is still relatively circular , although there has been some cutting on it, which I rendered either Factory or replacement when the engine has been changed to one from 1977 with Ford Partno. probably out of a Granada Consul Capri... who knows..

I'll check a bit with some photos from both Body and gearbox/Bellhousing.

If the Bellhousing wouldn't be original everything else wouldn't match right? Driveshaft, inputshaft, gear lever position, third metalastic bushing and bracket holding gearbox in place etc... I have fotographed the casting numbers on the housing of gearbox and so forth I'll check with reference numbers in RParts...

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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by philhoward » Fri May 26, 2017 12:51 pm

Pepe wrote:Bend Gearstick is original as it came of the car.
I wouldn't go with that as gospel..

3 owners of a 5a with the same box I can think of immediately are RockerPhill, b.c.flat hat and our own Webmaster, Ian - one of them may be able to confirm? I'm sure there are others as well - just the first 3 I thought of!


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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by gtcse8 » Fri May 26, 2017 8:29 pm

Same in my 5A, and I have two spare boxes that I`m sure have straight levers.
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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by efi_sprintgte » Fri May 26, 2017 9:02 pm

I seem to remember that the short nose (hydraulic clutch) used straight and the long nose (cable clutch) used bent but I am working from a vague memory!


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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by b.c.flat hat » Fri May 26, 2017 9:10 pm

Cable clutch, straight gear stick on mine.



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Re: "I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it

Post by Pepe » Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:28 am

Hmm. Strange stuff. Does anyone know if Capris Had straight levers? The one I got is from a Ford.

When back home from Portugal vacation I'll check if reverse would work with straight one. Still think it'll be to tight with centre console.

Probably a dealer change to reach the electric window buttons better :D :)

BTW: during driving me being very tall a bend stick comes in comfortable.. Long arms reach stick better.. :)


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"I thought I'd just put the brakes together and drive it"...

Post by Pepe » Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:55 pm

Little bit of mods.... to gain more confidence on real temperatures I clustered the engine compartment with some thermometers :)

All not very accurate readings, but the give me good confidence ...

digital and analog readings on the top coolant hose...
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...and on the lower one.... digital (clamped on the water bottle)...
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...and an analog one fownthere :)...
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