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Post by Alan SS1 » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:42 pm

reliant-reviver wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:15 pm
One would hope, or indeed request that they brace it all up in it's existing state before chopping the sills out. Nothing fancy, just lengths of box section tack welded on in key areas then buzz them off when the work is done.

Your bulkhead cross bar appears to be bent upwards?
concur, but add DIAGONAL sections as well, eg from the gear-lever hole to top of B post and corner of seat runners (inner edge to base etc, things tend to twist when gets 'toasty' :wink:
and it'll probably not sit 'perfectly' afterwards as I doubt if Reliant's jigs were that accurate!!

if possible beef up the area around the front of Diff mounting, early cars were prone to cracking, thread on here (somewhere) of what they shouldn't look like :shock:
http://www.scimitarweb.co.uk/sgwrs/view ... iff#p94435

link might work?


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Post by scimjim » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:51 pm

I’ve only done one set of sills (I have two more to do in the near future) but I made a jig that picked up on the rollbar main mounts, seatbelt top mounts, A post cross tube mounts and the two captive nuts on the trans tunnel by the front bulkhead with a diagonal cross between A/B posts. Might have been slight overkill but nothing moved :D

Unfortunately it was binned in the move from Yeovil to Gloucester :(


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Post by rhss1 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:18 am

Yes it was bent. Lifting error removing the tub...

Is nice and straight now.



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Post by rhss1 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:14 am

Questions about the gearbox and diff mounts:

a) back end of the gerabox sits in a sort of upside-down mushroom-section rubber bit. Does these go bad/how do I tell if a new one is needed

b) apparently diff mounts can be reinforced, can I have a pointer to a pic please to show the welder.



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Post by rhss1 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:16 am

Question about the plastics used:

Somewhere a few years ago I saw a list of the various plastics that were used for the different panels of the car.

In particular one door outer skin and the point of the nose need fixing - what are they and what's best to use.



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Post by scimjim » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:27 pm

rhss1 wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:14 am
a) back end of the gerabox sits in a sort of upside-down mushroom-section rubber bit. Does these go bad/how do I tell if a new one is needed
I’ve only seen them destroyed by chemicals (fuel probably) - they’re pretty indestructible IME
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b) apparently diff mounts can be reinforced, can I have a pointer to a pic please to show the welder.
The front plate of early cars cracked - Reliant’s fix was to bolt another plate on top :D later cars are reinforced at build and a spacer changed the angle slightly.


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Post by scimjim » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:28 pm

rhss1 wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:16 am
Question about the plastics used:

Somewhere a few years ago I saw a list of the various plastics that were used for the different panels of the car.

In particular one door outer skin and the point of the nose need fixing - what are they and what's best to use.
Doors are GRP and nose cones are RRIM plastic.


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Post by Alan SS1 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:24 pm

rhss1 wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:14 am
Questions about the gearbox and diff mounts:

a) back end of the gerabox sits in a sort of upside-down mushroom-section rubber bit. Does these go bad/how do I tell if a new one is needed

b) apparently diff mounts can be reinforced, can I have a pointer to a pic please to show the welder.
oil/fuel doesn't help the rubber, mine was a wee bit 'squishy'

did the link not work?
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I don't know if I have aphoto of the part I made :-( passed it onto some other SS1 owner


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Post by rhss1 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:28 pm

When I clicked the link I got a "you are not authorised" message. Thanks for this pic, I will look there on my chassis.



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Post by scimjim » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:18 am

Try this link.


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Post by rhss1 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:53 pm

The link to the discussion worked first time - the one that gives me the error is:

download/file.php?id=3346&t=1

perhaps it is necessary to cross the rssoc's palm?



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Post by scimjim » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:48 pm

Try it now - I’ve added the picture that was in the link.


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Current: SE5 (8Ball), TI SS1 (snotty), 1600 SS1 (G97), 1600 SS1 (C686CCR), 2.5TD SE5a (diesel 5a), 6 x random other SS1s.
Previous: SE5, 3 x SE5a, 2 x SE6a, 3 x SE6b, GTC, 2.9i GTC, 3 x 1600 SS1, 1300 SS1, Mk1 Ti Sabre, Mk1.5 CVH Sabre
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Post by rhss1 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:07 am

Some further progress - took wheels off and poked about the suspension & steering and various rusty places.

Right side sill rear:
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Right side rear arm mount:
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Left side sill rear:
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Diff mount - no cracks:
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Left front lower mount:
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Where some of the body panels live:
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Left rear shock and spring:
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Tank:
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Post by rhss1 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:46 pm

More progress.

Got a good tool today. It's one of those screw-type ball-joint removers.

Grease the screw threads, get it positioned and snug, somewhere between three and six turns later you hear a crack and they're apart. It's that simple.

I got the steering rack off with it - needs new rubber bellows at least, one is almost cracked through and the other is ahead of it.

Also got the left front suspension bits off.

Why did Reliant put the bolt heads on the end where they will foul the brake lines when you push them out?

Took the tank off.

Why did Reliant use 2 inch bolts to hold the straps on - a half an inch would be plenty.

And I squirted lots of penetrating oil on the next set of nuts and bolts to do.



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Post by Alan SS1 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:47 pm

rhss1 wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:46 pm

Why did Reliant put the bolt heads on the end where they will foul the brake lines when you push them out?
.
other wise fouls the front of the GRP inner wing ( but this is easily sorted with a hole saw :wink: )


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