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Post by peter freeman » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:33 pm

I took our cars out for a run around he block today mainly to clean the rust off the brakes and turn the tyres. My wife was worried that I may be stopped by the fuzz for being out, plenty of taxis out there and and builders working on house extensions etc by the way, anyway back to the point. I think that technically I could argue that I have not set foot out of my property as I had got into and out of the car on our drive and had not stopped or got out of the car at any time and the car is my property anyway and I had not left it. Comments !



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Post by philhoward » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:34 pm

I think the word “pedant” springs to mind..


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Post by Oaksey » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:58 pm

You don't really need to be a legal beaver, it's pretty clear. You left your house.
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Post by alec gatherer » Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:13 pm

I go to the shop (once a week) in the Riley. Cheers other people up and fulfils the Govt guidelines.



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Post by TrevorG » Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:16 pm

It is interesting (not) to know the spurious list of exemptions. Taxis are allowed as they could be carrying nurses etc......building work is exempted as are other works (like my ex workplace dealing in mowers!) As long as they apply the 2m rule. Getting pretty peed off with those sunbathing in parks in cities that might bring in a clampdown on my lucky position of being able to go for a long walk with the dogs and not meet anyone or pass another property!



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Post by GTC Ian » Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:29 pm

Oaksey wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:58 pm
You don't really need to be a legal beaver, it's pretty clear. You left your house.
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That seems pretty clear to me. Stay at home now and stay clear of the virus and you will have plenty of time to de-rust the brakes and turn the wheels later!
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Post by Rattling » Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:30 pm

peter freeman wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:33 pm
I took our cars out for a run around he block today mainly to clean the rust off the brakes and turn the tyres. My wife was worried that I may be stopped by the fuzz for being out, plenty of taxis out there and and builders working on house extensions etc by the way, anyway back to the point. I think that technically I could argue that I have not set foot out of my property as I had got into and out of the car on our drive and had not stopped or got out of the car at any time and the car is my property anyway and I had not left it. Comments !
Can’t see a problem with it as you say you don’t get out of it except on your own property,shopping on the otherhand presents all sorts of hazards because you have to get out of the car .


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Post by AJL Electronics » Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:38 pm

I think that the objection to driving is more to do with the risk of accidents which would divert resources. All the nutters are still about and emboldened by the lack of traffic, are behaving even worse. We have already had two big accidents that I am aware of locally, one this morning.


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Post by peter freeman » Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:48 pm

GTC Ian wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:29 pm
Oaksey wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:58 pm
You don't really need to be a legal beaver, it's pretty clear. You left your house.
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That seems pretty clear to me. Stay at home now and stay clear of the virus and you will have plenty of time to de-rust the brakes and turn the wheels later!
Think of others rather than yourself.
Thanks for that - nice to know there are some sympathetic people out there - how much later do you think it will be - in the meantime I have four sets of tyres which could be written off.



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Post by Geraint SabreGTCse5 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:53 pm

As mentioned Peter it wasn't an essential journey so you have contravened the emergency legislation.

Taxis should only be carrying fares who need to go for essential shopping, medical care, or taking an essential worker to or from work.

Building companies should only be carrying out activities where they are able to appropriately implement the Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) issued by the Construction Leadership Council (CLC) on March 24. There is a long list of requirements which most companies except on large scale schemes can not implement safely. If they contravene any of the requirements they could be closed down but who is checking they meet the required standard? I only know this as I have a friend who is a building control manager.

If something isn't enforced some will ignore the requirements and I expect the restrictions to get more stringent over the next few weeks as the death toll rises.


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Post by rebel alliance » Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:57 pm

You could always jack each corner up and turn the tyres 180 deg , counts as exercise so win win 😂



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Post by peter freeman » Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:05 pm

I would have to move the cars off the drive to jack them up as they are too close together to be able to use a jack



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Post by rebel alliance » Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:14 pm

Airbag 😊



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Post by tony1966 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:22 pm

they can only get so stringent-after all dogs need walking,shopping needs fetching,humans need to stretch their legs too-its only going to be so long before somebody makes a legal challenge rightly or wrongly to the goverments hastily thought and pushed through covid legislation

a lot of this could have been avoided with some forethought from those in charge of funding nhs etc

i never did see the harm in going for a drive in a reasonably well maintained car tbh,probability of breaking down low,accident -low
in fact its safer virus wise than shopping of lifting the mail off your doorstep

sadly though the actions of a few spoil it for the many



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Post by philhoward » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:54 pm

tony1966 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:22 pm
sadly though the actions of a few spoil it for the many
How very true.


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