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Post by scimjim » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:40 pm

siw1800 wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:31 pm
I don't see a contradiction....
Really?

“There is no requirement....for the owner to make a declaration...declaring that the vehicle is a vehicle of historic interest...”

‘The Department and DVLA have set up an administrative process (via DVLA form V112 and the equivalent process on-line) which requires....a declaration that the vehicle is a vehicle of historic interest....”

The second para is the correct one, and there’s been lots of chat about the legalities of making a non-qualified owner declare that their car isn’t modified.


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Post by Roger Pennington » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:53 pm

Agreed, it jumped out at me, because the first para. went against everything I had understood up to now, then the second seemed to backtrack on that. (as far as you could tell from the garbled English!)


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Post by siw1800 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:53 pm

Roger Pennington wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:37 pm
help owners of old vehicles that have been substantially modified do not by mistake
that says to stop them making a mistake when it is modified
Roger Pennington wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:37 pm
providing the vehicle has not been substantially changed
That says ok if not modified


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Post by scimjim » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:26 pm

Correct, but not what we’re talikng about.

The penultimate paragraph says you don’t need to make a declaration.

The last paragraph says that you do need make a declaration.


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Post by Dave 6726 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:34 am

But aren't the two apparently opposing paragraphs referring to two different situations?

The first is saying that when the vehicle is 40, there is no need for the owner to declare that it is VHI (indeed, there is no mechanism by which to do so),
but the second is saying that when it is next licensed - *the date of which may be different from the above one* - then it must be declared; the practical effect then is that even after it's 40, it must have a valid MOT until the next licensing, when VHI can be declared.



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Post by Alan SS1 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:54 pm

I thought I was being helpful !!

I assume also that the RSSOC will get the original letter and the 'press release' that went along with it?


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Post by TrevorG » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:19 pm

Dave, many many thanks. It's taken five pages of backwards and forwards discussion by all until you have answered my original query. That's exactly what I thought a few months ago when I started this thread. Mind you, it's all been interesting and it seems that DVLA are not really aware either!



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Post by BigBobPilot » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:27 pm

Dave 6726 wrote:
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the practical effect then is that even after it's 40, it must have a valid MOT until the next licensing, when VHI can be declared.
Nope, you just re-tax it. The DVLA website says the car is already taxed & do you want to proceed. You just say yes, then it asks about VHI before you go on to say you want another 12 months free tax. You need to wait for the MOT to run out before you can do this though.
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Post by scimjim » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:50 pm

Yep, the law states that you don’t need an MOT after 40. Confusingly VED exemption isn’t automatic but MOT exemption is.


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Post by Dave 6726 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:53 pm

Sorry, Trevor. Looks as if I have to go back to the drawing board!

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Post by TrevorG » Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:49 am

No problem Dave, my original query was trying to see if anyone had got mot exemption on a car without a current mot as mine is on sorn and has been on sorn for a number of years and is now over 40 years old and being restored. Lots of answers suggesting to get an mot, which would be one solution, but my garage friend has suggested a garage report will be more thorough and if any problems, then they can be sorted over time. A failed mot is a failed mot and registers with dvla.

So, has anyone actually done it?



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Post by rebel alliance » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:22 am

Yes ..on two cars one with a mot fail and the other with an expired mot.....as said before just apply for tax online



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Post by BigBobPilot » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:59 am

It's really easy Trevor, but you might be looking at it backwards. You cannot claim MOT exemption while the car has a current MOT, it has to be expired. Otherwise the DVLA website knows it's MOT'd and doesn't ask you the question. It must have valid insurance to be taxed though.

Just go to the DVLA tax on-line and play with it. It's quite clear.


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Post by TrevorG » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:04 am

Brilliant, thanks both. Perhaps it's my dread of officialdom that makes me wary. After all, we rely on and pay for government to steer a clear path through that which we cannot and they're doing a really good job at the moment aren't they? 😂



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Post by David Tew » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:42 am

TrevorG wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:49 am
... my original query was trying to see if anyone had got mot exemption on a car without a current mot as mine is on sorn and has been on sorn for a number of years and is now over 40 years old and being restored.
So, has anyone actually done it?
It's really easy, as others have said. It does need to be in the Historic tax class though. My Coupe had been off the road since before SORN was introduced so I needed to change the tax class from PLG to Historic. You need to do this at a PO that issues car tax so I took the amended V5C along, together with a V112, and they taxed it for me. I even got a receipt for £0! I received a new V5C from the DVLA about a week later.

It will need to be insured, of course, otherwise the DVLA will rescind the tax (the PO doesn't check the insurance status). Once you have the updated V5C you can tax the car online next year.


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